The Atlantic Cup

Rail Meat

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I was down in Charleston this past weekend, getting Dragon sorted. The work list is getting pretty short, which hopefully will mean nothing but practice for the next three weekends.

The basin at City Marina is starting to look exciting. Six Class 40's tied up as of Sunday evening and that number may double as soon as this coming weekend with a pack of boats expected in from Mexico after their transit from the end of the Solidaire du Chocolat. If you are US based and you ever wanted to check out what the Class 40's are all about, now is the time to do it. Different designs, different approaches to hardware and rigging choices, different layouts. Check out the fleet in Charleston, New York City or Newport.

If any one wants to stop by, I am going to be on the boat this coming weekend and happy to show people the boat. Drop me a PM and we can figure out some time.

 

Merfyn Owen

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This is as big and as competitive a fleet as we get in Europe for races like the Fastnet, Normandy Channel Race, even the Worlds/Mondial. This is a BIG deal whichever way you cut it, but for the US it's indeed awesome. Hugh and Julianna have done a fantastic job to provide this event for the sailors to compete in. I hope they get the support off the water as much as on it to help ensure that this becomes as fixed in the Class 40 calendar as the Route du Rhum, TJV and Chocolat - the races that have fed the European boats to this event.

These are not just any fifteen Class 40s, of the fifteen, there are eleven third and fourth generation boats, the latest of which was launched only this year, the US flagged Boadacious Dream. There are also some of the most experienced Class 40 pro sailors from Europe on the boats, Joerg Riechers (winner of the Chocolat du Solidaire), Marc Lepesqueux (Mini Transat winner and Joerg's crew), Halvard and Miranda (Whitebreads, Volvo and five years in Class 40's). I could go on and on naming the other yachties with significant time/victories in Mini, Figaro and Class 40s.

Although there are 'only' five of North Americas sixteen Class 40's in the race, there are eleven US sailors on seven boats leaving Charleston. When I step off Dragon in New York that'll increase to twelve and this includes US sailor Jesse Naimark-Rowse who (on our 2009 40 Degrees design) placed third in last years Transat Jacques Vabres, the best performance in any Transat in this Class by a US sailor so far. North American (because there are three Class 40's in Canada let's not forget the Canucks) sailors doing all these miles on this kind of boat is a huge step forward for short-handed offshore sailing on the 'other side' of the Atlantic. I say this because it seems to me that the class and the short-handed discipline in North America now has the crticial mass and the momentum to carry itself forward. Amazing, given the times we're living in. More boats and owners need to be attracted still (particularly on the west coast) and it's key that races like the Atlantic Cup are supported by home boats and that as much as possible pre-chosen events are attended 'en masse' rather than the fleet dispersing and showing up to a wider range of regattas in ones and twos. This communication is already happening and of course it's Rail Meat's enthusiasm for the class that's making that happen.

This is going to be a great fleet to sail in. I hope SA people and other come down to see the boats in Charleston, NYC and Newport. On a personal note, people who know me know I never get 'excited' until twenty four hours before a race, even a big event like the TJV I did with Kip. However, I am this time. Besides the usual challenge of sailing in such a great fleet, I love Charleston and I've already imagined in my minds eye racing past the statue of liberty for the first time into New York harbour. Christ, it's going to be great ! You don't get fog there this time of year do you?

PS

Mike, Rob, Joe, Nick, Eric, - I haven't forgotten about you guys crossing the water to sail with us in the 'old' world. That's fantastic and an amazing individual commitment and achievement to do so and in this narrative it's almost gone by un-noticed. It's great to see the 'stars and bars' on the back of boats in the channel ports and I know that it's a talking point on the docks and your presence adds more than a bit of colour to the events, but I wrote the piece above (almost completly ignoring the Transat dimension) because I'm just stoked to see such an event as the Atlantic Cup doing so well on your home shores.

 

bobothehobo

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Hey Mike is Museler your crew for the offshores?
Chris and I are going to be kicking ass for the second leg, and Merf Owen is on-board for the first leg. There is a tiny chance that a work commmitment is going to keep me chained to the desk for the first leg, and if so then Chris is going to step up for me in the first leg with Merf.

The third leg fully crewed team is going to be something to behold - more on that at a later date.
Nice!

Good luck Mike! I may catch up with you in NYC but if not see you in Newport.

-Britt

 

Rail Meat

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When will the fleet be in NYC and where, North Cove?

Rough ETA around late in the evening of Monday the 14th of May. Pro Am on that Friday the 18th and then start for Newport on Saturday morning the 19th. We will all be in North Cove.

Hey Mike is Museler your crew for the offshores?
Chris and I are going to be kicking ass for the second leg, and Merf Owen is on-board for the first leg. There is a tiny chance that a work commmitment is going to keep me chained to the desk for the first leg, and if so then Chris is going to step up for me in the first leg with Merf.

The third leg fully crewed team is going to be something to behold - more on that at a later date.
Nice!

Good luck Mike! I may catch up with you in NYC but if not see you in Newport.

-Britt

Excellent! Looking forward to catching up.

 

redboat

Super Anarchist
Wow, that's quite a fleet!!! RM must be downright giddy.

Ryano's coverage of the last VOR stopover in Boston contained some of the best SA interviews ever. His assignment to coverage of this event bodes well and whatever resources/access are dedicated to his reporting efforts will be well spent. Looking forward to it.

Good Luck RM. This could definitely be worth the jaunt to Newport to check out the fleet.

 

mr_ryano

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Wow, that's quite a fleet!!! RM must be downright giddy.

Ryano's coverage of the last VOR stopover in Boston contained some of the best SA interviews ever. His assignment to coverage of this event bodes well and whatever resources/access are dedicated to his reporting efforts will be well spent. Looking forward to it.

Good Luck RM. This could definitely be worth the jaunt to Newport to check out the fleet.
Thanks! Here is the schedule of events for any NYC area Anarchists:

Schedule:!

• Boats finish the Charleston to New York leg May 14th - 15th !

• The finish line is just off the southwest corner of North Cove Marina. Follow the online

race tracker for up to the minute location of the fleet.

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• May 15th-17th: Fleet will be docked at North Cove Marina!

• Stop in between 9am-5pm daily to see the boats and meet the skippers. !

• Look for the Atlantic Cup flags to find the fleet!

• Due to the Pro-AM on May 18th, the fleet will be in the marina from 9am-12pm and from

4pm on!

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• May 18th:VIP Pro AM & Pyrat Rum Cocktail Party 12pm-7pm!

• A very limited number of spots are available for the Pro-Am and cocktail party. For more

information go to: http://atlanticcup.org/events/vip-pro-am-may-17th-nyc/ !

• May 19th: New York to Newport Start at Battery Park City - 11am !

• Come down to Battery Park City to watch the fleet up close as they depart for Newport.

Look for the Atlantic Cup flags which will signal one end of the start line!

• The gun will go off at 11am just off the southwest corner of North Cove Marina!

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• May 19th: Official New York City Atlantic Cup Race Start Party!

• If you want an insiderʼs view to the Race Start, you can purchase a ticket to the Race

Start Party. Including an Ultimat Vodka Bloody Mary Bar, croissants and live race

commentary this is the best way to watch the start of the second leg of the race! Tickets

are extremely limited, so donʼt miss out!!

• Where: Atlantic Cup Tent at the Southwest End of North Cove Marina!

• Time: 9:30am-12pm!

• Cost: $40 per ticket. !

• Tickets available at: http://atlanticcup.org/events/2012-05-19!

• $5 of each ticket goes to the Boomer Esiason Foundation to help in the fight against

cystic fibrosis!

 

MR.CLEAN

Moderator
#17 Transport Coherence

Benoît Joudanet officially announced Jorge Madden as his co-skipper.

#30 Initiatives

Rob Windsor, who was racing on #81 Geodis will now race with Emma

Creighton.

#81 Geodis

Suffered extensive bulkhead damage on her delivery from Mexico and as of

today is not planning to make the start.

#105 ­ Eole Generation ­ GDF Suez

Sebastian Rogues announced his co-skipper as Jeff McFarlane. Jeff is a

graduate of Oakcliff Sailing Academy¹s Acorn Program.

#109 ­ Talan-Bureau Veritas

Stephane Le Diraison announced his co-skipper as Jesse

Naimark-Rowse. Jesse is the youngest American to ever complete the

Mini-Transat and also placed 3rd in the 2011 Transat Jacques Vabre.

#115 ­ Mare

Jörg Riechers announced he will now race with Ryan Breymeier for Leg 1 and

Charles Euverte for Leg 2

Further bios and team details can be found at http://atlanticcup.org/teams/

 

Toothface Racing

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Hey Rail Meat,

Toothface made it into Charleston yesterday, (after an on the nose slog around Hatteras) and we rafted up to the mighty Dragon for an hour as the inn was full! Amazing boat eye-candy already down there, with more to come! Some really cool stuff to gawk. Dragon held her own in the beauty contest next to some pretty good looking euro hardware! We got a space adjacent to the main class40 basin (toward the bridge next dock over.) Ken will be back down for the weekend, and I will be there by tues night/wednesday morn for the duration. Look forwards to catching up with you and Merf! We finally gots us some of dem new black sails, so watch out for us pirates outta Boston!! Now that Hugh has PBR as a sponsor, I'm back to my stinkin' jeans indie rock roots with this race!

cheers - mike dreese

 

Rail Meat

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Heya Mike. Looking forward to tossing back a few ice cold PBRs with you. That is some legendary sponsorship that Junior and Juliana secured. I really want an Atlantic Cup / PBR trucker's cap.

Toothface is looking great.

Got to CHS this afternoon, had some tacos at Taco Boy and got the the marina in time to catch up with Clean before he jumped in his truck and missioned to Michigan. Remotes with fresh batteries were sync'd up to the NKE system, got my new deck screen mostly sorted, and got the new hauldown lock squared away on the hydro generator mount. I think I have earned a PBR or two.

 

MR.CLEAN

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Nice one Mike, and great to see you. I am 95% confirmed for Newport, so keep a spot for me on the inport race! Also please send the thread link around to the whole fleet so they can copy their blog posts or otherwise update their own progress here. It'd be pretty cool to have a spot here where the majority of the fleet is posting...

To the rest of the spectators, do you realize that this is history being made here? As far as I can tell, there has NEVER been anything like this in the USA. 14 near-identical box-rule boats racing a multi-leg race up the East Coast (or any coast) with major sponsorship and prize money?

Fucking A right, and can't give enough props to Junior and Julianna and all of you for making it happen. Very sad to miss the start, but with all the content you guys have promised (Poucher, Ryan, Mike, Anna, JC, and maybe even little Emma), I know we'll all feel like we're right there.

 

F18 Sailor

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Great job on putting this together, can't wait to watch from my lowly pc.

Are any of the Class 40's doing the Newport to Bermuda? I'd love to check one out if so!

 

Tucky

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Mike, when you get a chance can you go over what the leg to NYC will be like, from a weather and route perspective. I'm doing a write up for the Ocean Navigator magazine website. Those folks are more interested in routing decisions than sailboat performance, and I'd like to encourage folks there to watch the race from a routing choice perspective. Maybe encourage them to drink a little PBR while they are at it.

 

Rail Meat

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Mike, when you get a chance can you go over what the leg to NYC will be like, from a weather and route perspective. I'm doing a write up for the Ocean Navigator magazine website. Those folks are more interested in routing decisions than sailboat performance, and I'd like to encourage folks there to watch the race from a routing choice perspective. Maybe encourage them to drink a little PBR while they are at it.

Sure, I can share some thoughts (such as they are).

The course is 640 miles, starting inside of the Charleston Harbor. There is only one mark of the course, inside of Charleston Harbor and then the finish line is off of the North Cove Marina in New York Harbor. Prevailing winds are south westerly across the course.

A clear feature on this course is the presence of the Gulf Stream. Running parallel to the coast from well south of Charleston and up past Cape Hattaras before it bends to the east towards Bermuda. The west wall is anywhere between 30 and 50 miles offshore for the first 260 miles of the course, and the current can run as much as 3 knots northwards inside of the Stream. A critical question will be if it is worth investing miles to the east to catch the Stream. Another factor is that in between the west wall and the shore, particularily as you get up towards Hattaras, there can be an entrainment current running south that you need to consider.

Cape Hattaras and the Outer Banks serve as a key navigational mark for the course, bulging out into the Atlantic and forcing the fleet to the east of the straight line between Charleston and New York. The shoals and shallow water at the Cape, combined with the proximity of the Gulf Stream can lead to weather systems that are unique to the area. There are absolutely no safe havens to run into if the weather goes pear shaped on you, and the inhospitable lee shore makes it easy to understand why it is referred to as the Graveyard of the Atlantic.

This race will essentially break down into 4 segments:

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  • From the start out the harbor to the end of the jetty
  • From the end of the jetty up to Cape Hattaras
  • From Cape Hattaras to the entrance to New York Harbor
  • From the Harbor entrance to North Cove.


Charleston Harbor is very tricky with the tides. We are starting on the east side of the peninsula and have a turning mark down on the southern end of the Harbor that will basically force us down the City water front and then out the southern channel without giving us the option of the northern channel. There will be some gains to be had depending on where you put yourself in the Harbor, and then a potential gybing duel as 15 boats squeeze down a narrow channel between the jettys once you get past Fort Sumtner.

Once past the end of the jetties, the question is if you should shoot the rhum line for Cape Hattaras, or try to interest the Stream further south by investing miles into the east with the hopes of a pay off in the form of more current. Wind conditions will dictate the choice for Dragon, and that choice is not clear yet.

Once past Hattaras, the decision hinges on when you leave the Stream, and how you want to play the New Jersey shore. The lure of steady sea breezes make a beach run the smart choice more times than not, but at this point in the Spring those sea breezes are less well established. A high pressure system on shore could suck all the air out of the beach option, and needs to be carefully considered. But going further off shore can also put you on the wrong side of cold water eddies coming off the Gulf Stream, throwing a knot or more of current in your face as you push north. Knowing where the eddies are, and having some idea of what is happening with the sea breezes is hugely helpful.

In the final segment, the fishing fleets and commercial shipping all play a significant role as you approach New York Harbor. An even bigger factor is that the harbor hsa fairly limited navigable water. you can try to cut the corner at Sandy Hook, but it is awfully shallow and you are going to feel pretty stupid to have sailed 615 miles and then find yourself praying for a high tide when you are stuck off a New Jersey beach. You also need to block out the cool distraction of sailing towards NYC's iconic skyline, and passing by the skirts of the Statue of Liberty. If past Class 40 races are any example, we could have a very large number of boats trading tacks or gybes all the way down to the finish line, so any lapse of concentration will cost dearly.

At the moment, the current forecast shows a frontal system moving from west to east across the length of the eastern seaboard on Thursday into Friday. Behind the front is a high pressure system and depending on the timing when that front moves through the winds could be a bit messy. They should reorganize into northerlies in the high middle digits to low teens on Friday afternoon and continue to be northerlies for at least 3/4s of the course.

The next feature to be concerned about is another front, again moving east to west and covering the length of the eastern seaboard. This one looks to cross the course in the Monday time frame, and its timing will determine the end game. Most of the fleet should be in the last 100 miles of the course by Monday morning, and gunning for the finish line.

As a result, the models are not in agreement with one another and the outlook is a bit murky. I suspect there will be more clarity as we get into Thursday morning, but in the meantime I am running routing a couple of times a day and poking at the results. Not to give away any secrets, but this could be a strategically interesting leg.

Great job on putting this together, can't wait to watch from my lowly pc.

Are any of the Class 40's doing the Newport to Bermuda? I'd love to check one out if so!
Yup, looks like we will have 4 or 5 Class 40s in the Bermuda Race. Track me down and I will happy to show you the boat.

 

mr_ryano

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Good recap Mike. I've never had a kite up for more than 30 mins ever going to Bermuda, so I thought this race would be fun downwind sailing in the Stream. Guess I'll take the blame for the wind on the nose going North! The race out of CHS should be fun. Hope Junior picked the start time to match the tides. 14 Class 40's going backwards wouldn't be good boat porn. See you Thursday

 
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