The big dogs come out to play. Solent J class regatta

mad

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Ranger on Gurnard Ledge. Bit of an oops by the nav.

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Kos again.

Isn't that the same bit of Gurnard Ledge where Harold Cudmore sank Jameson in the (?) 1994 Admiral's Cup ?
That's the one, pretty much the whole one ton fleet followed him as well :p

 

mad

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Backround doesnt look like Gurnard Bay. You 100% sure its Gurnard? Looks further west in the Solent!

Ranger on Gurnard Ledge. Bit of an oops by the nav.

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Kos again.
You can always take a day off from being an idiot you know

 

MR.CLEAN

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Wonder why Endeavour isn't there ?

I agree the America's Cup would be more compelling in these massive macnines.
In 30 knots of breeze, absolutely. Nothing better than topmasts crashing into the sea and hull seams opening up.

In 10 knots, you'd put everyone except the nerdiest traditionalist into a coma.

Go watch 12 meters racing in light air. Maybe interesting once upon a time, excruciating now.

Ranger on Gurnard Ledge. Bit of an oops by the nav.

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Kos again.

Isn't that the same bit of Gurnard Ledge where Harold Cudmore sank Jameson in the (?) 1994 Admiral's Cup ?
That's the one, pretty much the whole one ton fleet followed him as well :p
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mad

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Wonder why Endeavour isn't there ?

I agree the America's Cup would be more compelling in these massive macnines.
In 30 knots of breeze, absolutely. Nothing better than topmasts crashing into the sea and hull seams opening up.

In 10 knots, you'd put everyone except the nerdiest traditionalist into a coma.

Go watch 12 meters racing in light air. Maybe interesting once upon a time, excruciating now.

Ranger on Gurnard Ledge. Bit of an oops by the nav.

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Kos again.

Isn't that the same bit of Gurnard Ledge where Harold Cudmore sank Jameson in the (?) 1994 Admiral's Cup ?
That's the one, pretty much the whole one ton fleet followed him as well :p
Not sure what that has to do with Jameson on the rocks.

But

15 minutes before the intended start-time, the mighty white Ranger went hard aground on the ledge off the island side near Thorness

 
Pity these aren't in the America's Cup. THAT would be worth watching.
I had the pleasure of doing race committee work when Ranger and Velsheda were in Newport for the Bucket last summer. They had a practice race although the full event was canceled due to Hurricane Irene and certainly went at each other. I was on mark set, so I could follow them for a good portion of the race and, though there was technically a 40m "keep-away" zone around each boat, they cut that out pretty quickly. The last beat was pure old fashioned match racing complete with slam dunks and luffing battles with 20-25 feet between the boats. Seeing those two beautiful massive boats go head to head like that was certainly not boring.

 
Race 3 Official Results now in:

1st = Velsheda

2nd = Ranger

3rd = Lionheart

4th = Rainbow

QUEENS CUP OVERALL RESULTS

1st = Velsheda

2nd = Ranger

3rd = Lionheart

4th = Rainbow

Short report from the Website:

After a delayed start the fleet got away cleanly with Velsheda first at the port end and Ranger last off at the starboard end.

At the first leeward mark, Solent Bank, Velsheda had a commanding lead followed by Rainbow, Lionheart and Ranger.

At the second leeward mark Velsheda was still leading but Rainbow, still behind Lionheart called for an overlap and forced Lionheart to give her inside rounding, so Rainbow came through to 2nd.

The finish, which should be about 2.30 p.m., will be off Egypt Point, Cowes giving another spectacular finish, as was enjoyed yesterday by the crowds who got there in time.

 

kent_island_sailor

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I would rather watch 12 meters too than the idiocy we have now.

IMHO and all........

Wonder why Endeavour isn't there ?

I agree the America's Cup would be more compelling in these massive macnines.
In 30 knots of breeze, absolutely. Nothing better than topmasts crashing into the sea and hull seams opening up.

In 10 knots, you'd put everyone except the nerdiest traditionalist into a coma.

Go watch 12 meters racing in light air. Maybe interesting once upon a time, excruciating now.

Ranger on Gurnard Ledge. Bit of an oops by the nav.

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Kos again.

Isn't that the same bit of Gurnard Ledge where Harold Cudmore sank Jameson in the (?) 1994 Admiral's Cup ?
That's the one, pretty much the whole one ton fleet followed him as well :p
 

umpire

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Went out and watched the J's finish at Cowes. Amazing sight, four of them. With kites up, bathed in sunshine and trailed by a huge spectator fleet.

Will try and get photos of my phone and post them.

Looking forward to seeing them again whe the weather is due to be better.

Also saw the new Wally 100 Hamilton from about 30 ft, she is one bit of kit

 

oatsandbeans

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Backround doesnt look like Gurnard Bay. You 100% sure its Gurnard? Looks further west in the Solent!

I agree it doesn't look like gurnard ledge possibly the next one west quarry ledge is a better bet.

Ranger on Gurnard Ledge. Bit of an oops by the nav.

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Kos again.
 

Anti-idiots

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If you know the solent at all, there would be houses in the back round of that picture. Plus the fact it allegedly happened prestart in the Western Solent NOT on Gurnard!

Backround doesnt look like Gurnard Bay. You 100% sure its Gurnard? Looks further west in the Solent!

Ranger on Gurnard Ledge. Bit of an oops by the nav.

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Kos again.
You can always take a day off from being an idiot you know
 

Red Dragon

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A LOT of us are not going to be that interested in this new generation America's Cup because we simply can not relate. Period. So they can go do their giant multi thing and that's fine and dandy, but for those of us who grew up sailing more traditional mono-hulled boats this kind of thing (the J-class event) is usually going to be a lot more interesting and exciting to watch.

Simply put, I would drive a long distance and pay someone to take me out on a powerboat to watch these J's go at it. I would not do that for the AC class multi's. Not one bit of it.

RD

 

davidprobable

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A LOT of us are not going to be that interested in this new generation America's Cup because we simply can not relate. Period. So they can go do their giant multi thing and that's fine and dandy, but for those of us who grew up sailing more traditional mono-hulled boats this kind of thing (the J-class event) is usually going to be a lot more interesting and exciting to watch.

Simply put, I would drive a long distance and pay someone to take me out on a powerboat to watch these J's go at it. I would not do that for the AC class multi's. Not one bit of it.

RD

Here! here!..........should be said more often..........the J's represent the gut feeling of the real America"s Cup.......if only it could take place in Newport RI sailing life would have returned to perfect.

 
Word on the street is that the owner had heard rumours that rainbow was devastatingly fast and didn't like the option of losing, shame because after a 3Di set of sails, pro crew and a multi million dollar 18 month refit to bring it up to the racing standard of ranger and velsheda, it was pulled out of racing, I hear some crew were in tears…What a spanner
Sounds very toys and prams. Or rather, I'm going to take my ball and go home. Wimp.
yeah the crew blah blah ( sorry ,simon, carol, kat , luke and bianca +some more ) what about the people ( me! )that did that refit from start to finish. lugging 9 tons of sand in and out of that thing ( sandblasting ) and ALL the blood sweet and more blood was most definately worth it. ... i put down every single piece of deck gear on that boat including all that titanium and those MASSIVE triple geared harken 11 45s..... sail trials, the lot..... to be told that it wasn't doing the solent regatta was a bit of a downer but i can tell you now and you better believe it , it was definately not a case of " I'm going to take my ball and go home. Wimp." full blown racing will f**k up a j-class . we put some serious reinforceing in that bow of endeavour and it was still twisting like ya mum at a disco. mr cassio loves his boat so much that he put 20M + into that boat.. to keep it alive for another 20 years . in the state that JK4 came into the yard it probably wouldn't have lasted a trip back across the pacific .

so before i start to get the red haze come over me at Joe blog for trying to have his 5 cents worths in something he most probably has no idea about i say check out the results from st barths buddy.. fresh out the box. they only made it there the night before the first race and had a winning margin of 3 mins and 40 seconds over ranger..

anyhow check out the pic of me standing in JK4 keel deeper than sir tom sopwith probably ever went, ever! and another of our sea friends playing along side

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CARBONINIT

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Backround doesnt look like Gurnard Bay. You 100% sure its Gurnard? Looks further west in the Solent!

Ranger on Gurnard Ledge. Bit of an oops by the nav.

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Kos again.
Its not Gurnard its The start of Thorness Bay and yes they are boring to watch. More excitment watching the new Wally one design.

 
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