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[36thLatitude]

The bloody holders had to give everyone canting foil arm designs this time because noone would have had a clue how to design and build in time.

 

[The Advocate]

The bloody holders had to give everyone canting foil arm designs this time because noone would have had a clue how to design and build in time.

So you have an issue with a team having more time to think and develop a new concept than anyone else sharing development of that concept because they might not be an event without doing that? What is your issue?

I could have sworn I saw a YT where the original design failed in lab testing. I might be wrong though, I came into this cycle late due to a lack of interest after the last few cycles.

 

[36thLatitude]

So you have an issue with a team having more time to think and develop a new concept than anyone else sharing development of that concept because they might not be an event without doing that? What is your issue?

I could have sworn I saw a YT where the original design failed in lab testing. I might be wrong though, I came into this cycle late due to a lack of interest after the last few cycles.

Yep

 

[The Advocate]

3 minutes ago, The Advocate said:
So you have an issue with a team having more time to think and develop a new concept than anyone else sharing development of that concept because they might not be an event without doing that? What is your issue?

I could have sworn I saw a YT where the original design failed in lab testing. I might be wrong though, I came into this cycle late due to a lack of interest after the last few cycles.

Yep

Cool story bro, solid response.

 

[36thLatitude]

Cool story bro, solid response.

I try not to over complicate

 

[The Advocate]

I try not to over complicate

You've excelled.

 

[Guest]

he's a bloody legend

 

[Gissie]

So you have an issue with a team having more time to think and develop a new concept than anyone else sharing development of that concept because they might not be an event without doing that? What is your issue?

I could have sworn I saw a YT where the original design failed in lab testing. I might be wrong though, I came into this cycle late due to a lack of interest after the last few cycles.

Surely the question is why chose a design that is so complicated that you need to share parts and knowledge when the claim was a yacht that would bring down costs and encourage new teams.

As for making things like arms and control one design helps NZ. One less area for a challenger to make a break through. Just another example of ETNZ's hubris during the last cycle that they are bringing into the next.

Do we get even more one design this time? You can only build one hull, so make them the same to cut costs?

A boat so complicated it was considered to difficult to design and build in 4 years and it was going to bring in new teams because of the low cost. Yeah, right.

 

[Guest]

Ineos and AM were struggling to fill the specialised roles, cant see 3 or 4 new teams getting up to speed in only a few years unless the boats are made a lot simpler or the whole software/hydraulic/electronic package was supplied like Moto Marelli does for electronics in MotoGP

 

[The Advocate]

Surely the question is why chose a design that is so complicated that you need to share parts and knowledge when the claim was a yacht that would bring down costs and encourage new teams.

As for making things like arms and control one design helps NZ. One less area for a challenger to make a break through. Just another example of ETNZ's hubris during the last cycle that they are bringing into the next.

Do we get even more one design this time? You can only build one hull, so make them the same to cut costs?

A boat so complicated it was considered to difficult to design and build in 4 years and it was going to bring in new teams because of the low cost. Yeah, right.

Agree with all this.

I commented on another thread that you could make the hulls OD and the costs wouldn't change.

 

[Gissie]

Ineos and AM were struggling to fill the specialised roles, cant see 3 or 4 new teams getting up to speed in only a few years unless the boats are made a lot simpler or the whole software/hydraulic/electronic package was supplied like Moto Marelli does for electronics in MotoGP

3-4 new teams makes me think of the Castle.

 

[The Advocate]

7 minutes ago, Gissie said:

3-4 new teams makes me think of the Castle.

 

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, Gissie said:

3-4 new teams makes me think of the Castle.

well now that you mention it, not a snowball's chance in hell of getting 8 teams.

 

[The Advocate]

well now that you mention it, not a snowball's chance in hell of getting 8 teams.

Nor was there getting 6, but lets not let that get in the way of a good funding story.

 

[JALhazmat]

Ineos and AM were struggling to fill the specialised roles, cant see 3 or 4 new teams getting up to speed in only a few years unless the boats are made a lot simpler or the whole software/hydraulic/electronic package was supplied like Moto Marelli does for electronics in MotoGP

Ineos had Goobs sat on the bench, which roles were they struggling to fill? 

 

[The Advocate]

Ineos had Goobs sat on the bench, which roles were they struggling to fill? 

That's one of the problems with the new PRT, monied teams taking people out of the game through the clause. People that need to have employment ongoing that the teams effectively fuck over.

I suspect @Caecilianwas referring to design roles.

 

[Xlot]

It is not the CoR's job to get teams to the series. Their job is to represent them once they are there. They have a responsibility and a duty to represent the teams entered, to keep the competition as fair for those already there, as they can.

It was GD's job to get teams to the event, BECAUSE HE TOLD THE NZ GOV HE WOULD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Surely the question is why chose a design that is so complicated that you need to share parts and knowledge when the claim was a yacht that would bring down costs and encourage new teams.

......

A boat so complicated it was considered to difficult to design and build in 4 years and it was going to bring in new teams because of the low cost. Yeah, right.

Correct. Let’s not forget that - Guillaume Verdier being the latest to confirm - Bertelli wanted a souped-up IMOCA, but was tricked into the AC75 concept. LR’s out of the picture now, let’s see if INEOS goes along

 

[Kate short for Bob]

Who cares you only need TWO teams to have an America's Cup match.  That's how it has always been.

 

[Blitzkrieg9]

Considering what the choice of TV programmes was back then it is no wonder...

Thats a great point. I was reading about the original Star Trek series. It was a flop and was cancelled after 3 seasons...  because it only had a 30% market share for its time slot. THIRTY PERCENT.   These days, a blockbuster show might get 5%.  But back then, there were literally 3 channels. If you didn't get 33% of the eyeballs you were sucking. 

 

[Guest]

Who cares you only need TWO teams to have an America's Cup match.  That's how it has always been.

And it used to be sailed in schooners