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Veni Vidi Ego Dubito
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Fairy tales are important learning tools
Yes they can be Aesop …for a fertile mind unlike yours, a fertilized mind

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Surfer7

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Surfer shows us a chart of children's deaths worldwide. Wonder if he'll look at this?

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New England Journal of Medicine

What I show and what you show don't necessarily contradict each other. We both properly document our data sources. Your NEJM data includes more recent data but does seem to match the 2014 data that drew upon (Wikipedia).

I have to wonder how many of the gun homicides in the NEJM data are from school shootings (the main driver of the topic) and how many are from your typical weekend gang violence in cities like Chicago, Portland, Seattle, Los Angeles, NYC, D.C. etc. We need to worry about both, I know. But again, the topic here and across the country is focussed on school shootings.

I also wonder about the NEJM lack of data on preventable hospital errors. My guess is that a journal from the medical profession is going to be reluctant to want to discuss that.

Observation: Until just a few short years ago motor vehicle crash deaths eclipsed all others for kids. I don't recall a hysteria about that or politicians calling for more legislation each time there was a traffic accident. Though looking at the data you presented it seems we all should be getting concerned again about traffic deaths (recent upward trend) and drug overdoses in addition to gun deaths.

I still maintain that changing schools from soft targets to hard targets should be done. Won't help the Chicago killings though.

Thanks for adding to the data here.
 

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You haven't yet explained why that seems to be only necessary in the USA.
Sadly it is part of being a free society and a result of the confusing anti traditional America values , anti religion movement , teaching that outlying behaviors are equal to tried and true traditional values in K-16 and infused in both MSM and social media.
 

MR.CLEAN

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Sadly it is part of being a free society and a result of the confusing anti traditional America values , anti religion movement , teaching that outlying behaviors are equal to tried and true traditional values in K-16 and infused in both MSM and social media.
If there were no other countries to compare to, your bullshit might be believable. The only way you can maintain this bullshit is by never looking at the rest of the world's data. Conscious ignorance, in other words. It's sad.
 

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If there were no other countries to compare to, your bullshit might be believable. The only way you can maintain this bullshit is by never looking at the rest of the world's data. Conscious ignorance, in other words. It's sad.
I don’t care about the “data” of the rest of the world. They don’t enjoy the personal freedom that we have in the USA. The countries at the laughable “happiest list” are devoid of the human spirit of self determination that is the base for the American people.
In my last days I worked for marine manufacturing company started by a Swedish couple in Sarasota in the early 80’s. At one Christmas party there were 21 flags hanging representing the home countries of the workers. It was extremely satisfying working with these first generation workers and one thing that they had in common was the personal freedom for advancement, risk taking for the chance of personal gain and reward, the fact that they left their home countries and cultures behind to join the American economy and society was heartwarming.

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Also, it's important to identify whether you have school age kids or not. VVV, do you have any kids or grandkids still in primary or secondary school?

I have a first grader in public school, FWIW.
My boys both went through the public school system, the first went to Williams College for 13-16 and then UF for law school, the second son UF with a Master’s in construction management.
There have both been poisoned by liberal pie in the sky thinking.
 

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And government squanders the tax revenue
The Great Society has been a massive failure, ONLY society can correct social problems , not the government via ever increasing departments and agencies. Liberals have taken the tenants of religious institutions out of the public school system and normalized abnormal behavior and practices..
Whose normal?? And you are the one that gets to decide what "Normal" is?? Religion is not my normal, am I abnormal??
 

shaggy

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My boys both went through the public school system, the first went to Williams College for 13-16 and then UF for law school, the second son UF with a Master’s in construction management.
There have both been poisoned by liberal pie in the sky thinking.
Poisoned hu?? Maybe they are the new normal...
 

Bus Driver

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Poisoned hu?? Maybe they are the new normal...
How many hours of contact does a parent have with a child, versus a school? I have to assume vvv did his level best to indoctrinate his children to his own brand of psychosis.

I would argue his kids, who we assume are bright enough, saw through the bullshit and adopted a mindset that isn't quite so pathetic. Good for them.
 

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The cost of which is a staggering number of gun deaths. But, that's a price you're willing to pay.
My option for reducing the staggering number of gun deaths is to revert to the traditional method of treating those that commit violent crimes and that is by swift and certain punishment , history shows the way.
 

MR.CLEAN

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My boys both went through the public school system, the first went to Williams College for 13-16 and then UF for law school, the second son UF with a Master’s in construction management.
There have both been poisoned by liberal pie in the sky thinking.
Sounds like they are both successful, but that you embarrass them. Mixed blessing, eh?

Thanks for letting us know you have no children or grandchildren in school.
 



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