The debate over assault weapons

[Ishmael]

None of the above. The entire concept of an armed civilian militia is one of a bygone era that the rest of the civilized world has managed to move on from.
The question is: why can't you?

His Precious binds him to Mordor.

 

[badlatitude]

Which do you think is the most suitable militia weapon? An AK, your assault weapon, my wife's assault weapon, or Dick Heller's battlefield .22 revolver?

It totally depends on what you need it for.

 

[Keith]

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

It totally depends on what you need it for.

The example under discussion was "to resist a nincomcoup" as I said above.

 

[veni vidi vici]

It totally depends on what you need it for.

Still a meathead

 

[Expat Canuck]

The example under discussion was "to resist a nincomcoup" as I said above.

No.. you were asking which was the most suitable militia weapon.
To which the only answer is: none of the above. As there has been no possible way for a civilian militia to defeat the military in approximately 200 years.

 

[Zonker]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/01/25/dog-shoots-man-kansas-hunting-trip/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_main

Dog steps on trigger of rifle, shoots man dead, Kansas sheriff says

A dog stepped on a loaded rifle, fatally shooting a passenger in his owner’s car during a hunting trip in Geuda Springs, Kan., sheriff’s deputies said.

Joseph Austin Smith, 30, of Wichita was sitting in the front passenger seat of a pickup truck when he was shot in the back, the Sumner County Sheriff’s Office said in a statement.

“The back seat contained hunting gear and a rifle,” the statement said. “A canine belonging to the owner of the pickup stepped on the rifle causing the weapon to discharge. The fired round struck the passenger who died of his injuries on scene.”
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"Saturday’s shooting is not the first involving a dog and a loaded weapon."

My question: which militia does the dog belong to? Does the passenger get a Darwin if killed by somebody ELSE'S dog?

 

[Olsonist]

Ain’t it a bitch.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

No.. you were asking which was the most suitable militia weapon.

As I have said before, if called for militia service, to resist a nincomcoup for example, I would prefer to have badlat's SCAR 17 over my wife's battlefield .22 and would take either over something constitutionally protected like Dick Heller's 9 round .22 revolver.

Hmm... Maybe if I frame your post as a reply to the one showing the context you will notice it this time around?

Just because you think circumstances have somehow repealed the second amendment doesn't make it so. Ignoring it endangers the rest. If you want it repealed just say so, don't pretend it has happened.

 

[Keith]

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Nevertheless, states have been steadily loosening their gun control laws under pressure from conservatives, who feel that a Democratic president is more likely to start confiscating weapons despite no evidence to support the assertion.

Hah!

Another person who was apparently deaf to the roar of the crowd when Beto said the quiet part about battlefield .22's loud and clear.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Does pink or silver exude more model behavior in an assault weapon?

My hypothetical question just became very real! When my wife was picking up her new (non-battlefield) .22 at the store, she ordered a SW22 Victory for me. Well, let me rephrase that. I definitely did NOT tell her to do this, except maybe as a joke. That would be a straw purchase that could land us both in the clink. She ordered a SW22 Victory as a gift for me. That's totally legal. She even wrapped it.

I'm going to take it to a customization shop in Sarasota and have them order a couple more thread protectors for floral arrangements. Also want to get rid of the scary black plastic grips.

I hope to use this assault weapon to repair the public image of assault weapons. They're not all scary looking rifles. Some are .22 pistols that can be made to look very non-scary despite their battlefield nature.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

I know, I know, pics or it didn't happen.

 

[Olsonist]

The NRA Has Lost Over a Million Members Since Corruption Allegations Surfaced

The National Rifle Association keeps shrinking.

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[Voyageur]

I know, I know, pics or it didn't happen.

what the fuck are you so afraid of?

 

[badlatitude]

The NRA Has Lost More Than a Million Members​

The Reload: Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre told attendees at the gun-rights group’s most recent board meeting that the organization is down to 4.3 million members… That represents a downturn of more than a million members since allegations of financial impropriety were leveled against LaPierre and other members of NRA leadership in 2019.

The NRA is now smaller than it has been since 2012 when internal documents show the group had 4 million members.

https://thereload.com/nra-has-lost-over-a-million-members-since-corruption-allegations-surfaced/
https://politicalwire.com/2023/02/10/the-nra-has-lost-more-than-a-million-members/

 

[jocal505]

Pertinacious Tom Today at 2:51 AM​

I know, I know, pics or it didn't happen.

Very nice, Dogballs. So romantic, too. Don't get the jizz on it.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

what the fuck are you so afraid of?

Stupid prohibition programs and the lying authoritarians who promote them.

Why would you have a problem with that?

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Good news! My new battlefield .22 eats whatever junky ammo I put in it happily! It's important for a militia weapon to function with whatever ammo may be available.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

The two magazines that came with my new battlefield .22 hold 10 rounds, so non-military, but I have ordered a couple of 11 round magazines. Those are suitable for militia use according to the House of Representatives.

Illinois disagrees, as noted above, exempting anything .22 from their ban.

So just what did they ban?

A judge wants a non-bullshit answer.

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In the Southern District of Illinois, four cases are pending. One is from the Federal Firearms Licensees of Illinois. Plaintiffs in that case filed a motion for preliminary injunction last week.


In three other cases, federal Judge Stephen McGlynn ordered state defendants to provide “illustrative examples of each and every item banned” under state law.


Thomas Maag, who brought the state level Crawford County case that was transferred to federal court, said the judge's order will make it difficult for the state to comply.


“Because the ban is so all encompassing and uses a great many vague terms that I’m not even sure that exactly what is banned and that’s probably why judge McGlynn ordered the state to do that so that we could find out what exactly we are arguing about,” Maag told The Center Square on Monday.
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It's going to get good when he starts examining why some tools are banned and others, which appear equally suitable for militia use, are not.