The Discarded- Rescuing a Tartan 33
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@Brae-Burn Wow, very helpful. Please elaborate on the hand pump under the v-berth?
Is it a holding tank transfer pump or is it an emergency bilge pump?
Yeah, access to the holding tank hoses is tight but right now I have zero access.
Is it a holding tank transfer pump or is it an emergency bilge pump?
Yeah, access to the holding tank hoses is tight but right now I have zero access.
Glad it helped.@Brae-Burn Wow, very helpful. Please elaborate on the hand pump under the v-berth?
Is it a holding tank transfer pump or is it an emergency bilge pump?
Yeah, access to the holding tank hoses is tight but right now I have zero access.
So the pump thing is connected to that green hose. If you follow it starboard, it connects to a T fitting. One side is connected to green hose, the other side of the T is connected to the toilet and the bottom of the T is connected to the holding tank which is near the bottom of the tank.
I BELIEVE its to pump out the holding tank, but I wonder if it would suck in air though from the toilet and just not work....
Looks like a kink in green hose coming off the pump to the port side in the top photo. If you want to do a tight radius like that, you may want to look at a different type of hose.
4ktsb
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Or an elbow
Ajax
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@Brae-Burn That holding tank pump is an interesting arrangement. I can't zoom into the photos but it looks like the hose goes to a through-hull that used to be for a transducer (that's where mine are located).
I think as long as the pump is pulling effluent, it will work. The tank will pull a vacuum (inhale) through the vent just as if you were using a pump-out at a dock.
My arrangement is different. A PO added two selector valves and a Boswell "Gusher" diaphragm manual pump crammed in under the head sink and plumbed them to the factory overboard seacock for the toilet. When I want to empty the holding tank, I simply flip the necessary valve from "deck" to "sea", open the seacock and operate the pump under the sink.
I think as long as the pump is pulling effluent, it will work. The tank will pull a vacuum (inhale) through the vent just as if you were using a pump-out at a dock.
My arrangement is different. A PO added two selector valves and a Boswell "Gusher" diaphragm manual pump crammed in under the head sink and plumbed them to the factory overboard seacock for the toilet. When I want to empty the holding tank, I simply flip the necessary valve from "deck" to "sea", open the seacock and operate the pump under the sink.
I don't use it at the moment, but it is something that has crossed my mind. I will probably end up using the actual hose, the white hose, and draw arrows on it and such to just document what pipe does what. I need to replace all my head hoses as well and will do the same thing.
Interesting! I had two thru hulls, one for a speed indicator and one for a depth transducer, but they were directly under the pump. I closed them off when I bought the boat and just installed a inhull depth transducer. I want as little holes in my boat as possible. The hose goes to a sideish thru-hull. I can get a better picture today. Nicole went over me, so I stayed in a hotel for the night. Boat is safe, checked on her this morning.
I think mine is like that as well Ajax. I have a, I think, 3 way selector switch. I haven't messed with it much and its hard to access to see everything.
@Ajax what type of bilge pump do you have? I have a hole at the top of my mast and when it rains a lot of water gets in. My bilge pump I use, doesn't get everything so there is like 2 - 3 inches of water in my bilge. I want to get it as low as possible via the pump, and then I can sponge the rest out.
Ajax
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That's exactly what I did.
I have the usual Rule 2000 gph electric pump that most people use, installed in the forward-most bilge bay where the water tends to collect.
There is also a Whale/Henderson Mk V hand pump installed in the cockpit.
In a real "oh shit" emergency, I can remove the hose from the back of my toilet and jam an extension hose onto it and use my toilet pump as another emergency hand pump. It's also a Henderson Mk V.
I'm sorry to say that I haven't found a way or a good "nuisance" pump to get that last 2 inches of water out of our bilge. I simply use a 2.5 gallon shop vac after it rains.
Okay, so it isn't just me that has water in the bilge after it rains.
I am starting to see that it is just a keel stepped mast thing.
Thanks. I usually do the shop vac too, but its a little too small 1 gal so it fills up fast.
I will just invest in a small utility pump then.
Thank you sir!
A radiused bend is usually better than an elbow in a waste line. Sometimes you have no choice, however.
Jim in Halifax
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That's not a kink in the hose; its a choke point in the discharge to cause turbulent flow that liquefies the turds. Nobody wants floaters around their boat...
If anyone wants a Tartan and to follow Ajax https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f152/tartan-33-for-sale-270631.html
Jim in Halifax
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Are you going to buy an ad for that guy? You know the drill by now...
Snore
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Actually it isn’t wildly optimistic- perhaps on the higher end.
T-33’s currently for sale range from the mid-29’s to over 40. The boat has had extensive upgrades, including Andersen winches, and two new tri-radial sails. Over the past few years I have probably spent over $15 of my delivery earnings on goodies. So you can buy that $24k boat with blown out sails, old MFD, no wind data, etc, etc. Or buy one that is ready to go.
Since I DID pay for and ad in the classifieds, here is a link to photos and a pdf with full details https://uscgmaster.com/cyn The pdf also has a link to the searches for comps.
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I do not know the drill. Sorry. If you want you can take it down.
