The "Good Guy with a gun" myth

[Steam Flyer]

I think...

No, you don't. You react mindlessly and predictably.

 

[sparau]

So are US people ok with the idea of killing someone over a few bucks?
Shouldn't the death penalty by expanded to all financial crime then?
What's the threshold, so they were putting some cash into an atm, $500- ?

 

[Mid]

Would you rather the good samaritan have not been there?

bet the majority would rather no guns were there .

 

[Marty Gingras]

So are US people ok with the idea of killing someone over a few bucks?

Nope. Neither was our criminal justice system.

 

[sparau]

The robbery suspect, who remains at large, will face felony murder charges in the killing, Ogg said. A $30,000 reward is being offered for information leading to his capture.

“We’re going to focus on catching the robbery suspect who started this chain of events,” she said. “I know we can find this killer with your help. Someone knows who he is.”

That's an interesting leap being made there !
So the person who may have had a gun is the killer (he wasn't apprehended, it could have been a fake, it could have been unloaded) and the tool who fired the round is ok.

I want somebody held accountable, because this family shouldn’t continue to suffer like this.

Because vengeance will make everything ok?
Is that a god botherer belief?

 

[Marty Gingras]

That's an interesting leap being made there !
So the person who may have had a gun is the killer (he wasn't apprehended, it could have been a fake, it could have been unloaded) and the tool who fired the round is ok.

When somebody dies during a felony, the felon can be charged with that death even if the death was indirect.

 

[Mark_K]

Shooting at a criminal that was running away and no longer posed an immediate threat. But, I guess you can get away with it.

Just say you thought you heard some gunshots and you're absolved from whatever happens next in Texas, I guess. Yee fukin ha.

 

[Zonker]

Oh that's why

 

[Ease the sheet.]

When somebody dies during a felony, the felon can be charged with that death even if the death was indirect.

Indirect?

In this case, that's a big fucking stretch.

 

[Marty Gingras]

When somebody dies during a felony, the felon can be charged with that death even if the death was indirect.

Indirect?

In this case, that's a big fucking stretch.

Tell it to the judge.

 

[Ease the sheet.]

Tell it to the judge.

It's not like a murderers get away driver....


The connection between the shooting and the robbing are so tenuous as to be laughable.

But Texas....

 

[phill_nz]

When somebody dies during a felony, the felon can be charged with that death even if the death was indirect.

yup
i found it quite interesting that you can take your ex to places where crime is rampant in the hope that eventually one will happen close enough to you that you can shoot her in the head .. you get to rittinhouse and the perp gets the blame

 

[jzk]

Yeah. I can see why you want to draw an equivalence between these two scenarios.

In one case, we have an actor, using what he thought was a prop gun, to film a scene in a movie.

In the other case, we have a man who fired a gun with the intent to kill* a human being - but mistakenly killed a different one.





*Please don't embarrass yourself with some bullshit about him trying to wound his target.

Do you read english?

Steam said "Shooting a gun in a manner that kills another person, when the person killed was in no way committing any kind of illegal act, is in fact a crime....You're not allowed to kill people and just say "oops, my bad.""

Steam is wrong. Do you disagree?

 

[Steam Flyer]

Do you read english?

Steam said "Shooting a gun in a manner that kills another person, when the person killed was in no way committing any kind of illegal act, is in fact a crime....You're not allowed to kill people and just say "oops, my bad.""

Steam is wrong. Do you disagree?

So, it's perfectly legal to kill people?

Gosh, I really really want to live in your neighborhood! It must be ever so nice there!

 

[Burning Man]

Shooting at a criminal that was running away and no longer posed an immediate threat. But, I guess you can get away with it.

When I went through my CCW classes.... that was YUGE no-no!

 

[Bus Driver]

Do you read english?

Steam said "Shooting a gun in a manner that kills another person, when the person killed was in no way committing any kind of illegal act, is in fact a crime....You're not allowed to kill people and just say "oops, my bad.""

Steam is wrong. Do you disagree?

I made no comment on what Steam wrote. You demanding I comment on it now is bullshit.

You seemed to think the situation with Baldwin is (somehow) relevant to the thread. Else, why bring it up?

But, yeah. Using a gun as a prop for filming, and finding out someone fucked up in that a live round was included is exactly the same as what happened to Arlene Alvarez.

 

[Ease the sheet.]

So, it's perfectly legal to kill people?

Sometimes....

 

[00seven]

I made no comment on what Steam wrote. Jzk Did.

You demanding I comment on it now is bullshit. He didn't demand anything

You seemed to think the situation with Baldwin is (somehow) relevant to the thread. Mind reading again?

Else, why bring it up? Why not?

But, yeah. Using a gun as a prop for filming, and finding out someone fucked up in that a live round was included is exactly the same as what happened to Arlene Alvarez.

Is one more dead than the other?

 

[Bus Driver]

Is one more dead than the other?

Ah, Grumpy. Helping out your little (minded) friend.

How cute.

 

[00seven]

Ah, Grumpy. Helping out your little (minded) friend.

How cute.

Talking about cute?

You think you're so clever, in here owning republicans at will. A dead set internet warrior!