THE IMOCA thread, single/double handed & TOR

[European Bloke]

tInteresting board shape. 

That really brings it home how big those boards are, than and the fact that it's sat under a massive chain hoist.

Only a matter of time before someone chimes in with, 'but with that design can they swap them over if they hit something...'

 

[jb5]

reminds me of the Gitana 17 tri's foils with the very fine tips.  Same designer Verdier.  For this boat its probably the first and final set of foils for the VG as he doesn't yet have VG funding.

 

[ctutmark]

reminds me of the Gitana 17 tri's foils with the very fine tips.  Same designer Verdier.  For this boat its probably the first and final set of foils for the VG as he doesn't yet have VG funding.

more I was looking the slight "W" shape at the board elbow. They are working on the root of the starboard board in the pic

 

[jb5]

more I was looking the slight "W" shape at the board elbow. They are working on the root of the starboard board in the pic

Have to assume that the W section isn't going to retract into the boat at all.

Interesting and different design to other IMOCA to date.

I did read speculation that Charal may go more the curved route of HB with its 2nd gen foils but waiting for the TJV to make any firm moves.

Just a guess but I tend to think with the imperfect foiling available to these boats currently the final foil shape probably isn't as important as the outright size to give lift and then how you adjust them  

 

[3to1]

why are those tips so dainty? is that to minimize tip vortices?

 

[Laurent]

If I understand well, the tip is supposed to stay OUT of the water, so you do not have any tip vortex and therefore reduce drag...

Or maybe I should say reduced tip vortex, since the junction high pressure/low pressure in the water flow is not at the tip of the foil, but at the surface/interface with air.

 

[3to1]

either way, simple drag reduction. but damn, those are some tiny sections. 

 

[LeoV]

They are not that heavy, resting on some styrofoam...

 

[mad]

They are not that heavy, resting on some styrofoam...

Its amazing how much weight you can support on a few blocks.

 

[LeoV]

Should have used sarcasm front. 150kg maybe ?
Duck duck go to the rescue, 2016 foil was 150 to 200 kg. (Tip&Shaft info)

 

[Puntone]

Do you know what happens to Malizia . She seems stopped and anchrored ?

 

[jb5]

Do you know what happens to Malizia . She seems stopped and anchrored ?

She is dropping an injured crew person off.  Nothing serious they say.  Precaution.

 

[jb5]

https://www.scanvoile.com/2019/09/imoca-bateaux-neufs-construction-nouveau-arkea-hugo-boss-apivia-corum.html#.XXJJjmPYphE

Summary of the new IMOCA released to date plus Thomas' which is now due tomorrow.

Five new IMOCA launched in 6 weeks, the Vendée Globe 2020 is already being played
The launch of the new IMOCA has accelerated this summer with no less than 5 new boats launched in just over 6 weeks! In total, eight new IMOCA will have been built in the perspective of the Vendée Globe 2020. Review details.

Credit: Lloyd Images

For a month and a half, a new IMOCA will have been launched on average every week! In order, Sebastien Simon's Arkea-Paprec on July 20, Alex Thomson's Hugo Boss , Charlie Dalin's Apivia , and Kojiro Shiraishi's DMG Mori. Tomorrow Saturday, September 7, Thomas Ruyant will launch his brand new Advens for cybersecurity. Two other new IMOCA are currently under construction, Corum l'Epargne by Nicolas Troussel and L'Occitane d'Armel Tripon.

Sébastien Simon (Arkea-Paprec): "the boat has a great potential"
Sébastien Simon's team was the first to draw this summer, putting the new Arkea-Paprec (Kouyoumdjian plan) on the 20th of July. Since then, navigations have multiplied. "We have seen that the boat has great potential. We are confident about our choices. We have a good margin of progress and already prospects for evolution. These boats are mechanically complicated, the development takes time and we hope to be almost 100% of the potential at the start of the Transat Jacques Vabre.

"The hull closest to ours, namely, powerful and tense, is that of Apivia. Charal and Hugo Boss have really different shapes, more round and "rocky". We all have foils of our own. We'll see in a few months what real differences in performance there may be. "

Charlie Dalin (Apivia): "The first real test will be the Transat Jacques Vabre"
Accompanied by his co-skipper Yann Eliès, Charlie Dalin took advantage of the training camp at Pôle Finistère to carry out his first speed tests, with of course a close look at Charal and Arkea-Paprec. "Given the boat's youth, we're doing pretty well. We talk a lot about hull and foils but we must not forget the engine of the boat, namely the sails. I am very satisfied, the sails are interesting for a first throw. The first real test will be the Transat Jacques Vabre. At the end of this race, which looks very much like the beginning of the Vendée Globe, we will see more clearly and how to be compared to the others. "

Alex Thomson (Hugo Boss): "we are not afraid to explore"
True to his reputation, Alex Thomson hit hard by presenting in early August, the new IMOCA in the colors of Hugo Boss (VPLP plan). "We innovate, we push our limits and we are not afraid to do things differently. We may not always be right and we accept it. But we are not afraid to explore things that have never been done before. " 

The "rocket" detonates with its completely closed cockpit which, in addition to providing better protection, offers an unobstructed view of what is happening at the front of the boat. The cockpit is integrated in the hull, the center of gravity is lowered, as the boom and therefore the wing, which optimizes the aerodynamics.

Alex Thomson plays the card of the difference in the foils. Huge and curved, they do not look like anything seen in IMOCA.

Kojiro Shiraishi (DMG Mori) in the mussels of Charal
Recently launched on September 2nd, DMG Mori, Kojiro Shiraishi's new IMOCA is a VPLP plan built in the Charal mussels. "I could not finish the Vendée Globe 2016-2017 because of a dismasting but I found a new sponsor who agreed to build a new IMOCA. "

After the baptism of DMG Mori, September 11 in Lorient, Kojiro Shiraishi and his team will make the first sailing and begin the development of the boat. The Japanese will start from the Transat Jacques Vabre, alongside a co-skipper who has not yet announced. "I can not wait to sail to the competition to see what I can do, especially with the other new IMOCAs that all look great."

Thomas Ruyant (Advens for cybersecurity): "It's fantastic to be part of this story"
This will be the last launch of the summer: Saturday, the IMOCA Thomas Ruyant (Verdier plan) will come out of the yard. " It's interesting because the new IMOCA have been designed by different architects. They are pushed into their entrenchments. It's fantastic to be part of this story with, I imagine, a very nice boat. The IMOCA we are getting closer to is Apivia, because it was designed by the same architect and on the same bases of plans. "

" With my team, we wanted a versatile boat, reliable, robust, "easy" to use. We also worked a lot on the sails file. We have taken different options at this level. "

 

[jb5]

https://www.scanvoile.com/2019/09/le-nouvel-imoca-de-thomas-ruyant-se-devoile-mise-a-leau-demain.html#.XXJ2xGPYphE

Here we go.  Per previous pictures, much less curve to the foils with fairly flat section and very fine tips.  Not retracting those very far.  No pictures of the cockpit yet.  Even painted it still looks like a beast.

Google translation

The new IMOCA Thomas Ruyant unveiled in Lorient before its launch tomorrow
Thomas Ruyant today proceeded to the construction site of his latest IMOCA, prelude to the launch planned tomorrow at Lorient-La Base. " The boat is bursting with all the splendor of its lines, its colors and its foils."

Credit: P.Bouras

Partner search
Several investors have already been seduced, allowing the construction of this new 60-foot IMOCA on Verdier plans.

Advens, a leader in Cybersecurity, is one of the first to join. "TR Racing is a very professional structure that has just been proven in technology with the construction of Advens for Cybersecurity" says Alexandre Fayeulle, CEO of Advens.

TR Racing is looking for partners for the 2020, 2021 and 2022 seasons. Focus on the Vendée Globe, the Solitaire Urgo Le Figaro or The Ocean Race.

Thomas Ruyant, skipper: 
 "It's a happy day for the entire TR Racing team, but also for the architects (Guillaume Verdier and the boat manufacturer (Persico).) The boat is bursting with all the splendor of its lines, colors and colors. The construction chapter is coming to an end, and we will open tomorrow with the actual launching, a new era in the navigation mode of the Vendée Globe sailboats, and it's up to us to tame it! "

Antoine Koch (Co-Skipper for the Transat Jacques Vabre): 
"This day generates great impatience to discover on the water all the secrets of the boat. The goal is to "decode" the boat in preparation for Thomas's Vendée Globe next year. We have one year to find all the keys to the good operation of Advens for Cybersecurity. "

By the Editor
Source: TB Press

 

[jb5]

https://www.scanvoile.com/2019/09/le-nouvel-imoca-de-thomas-ruyant-se-devoile-mise-a-leau-demain.html#.XXJ2xGPYphE

Here we go.  Per previous pictures, much less curve to the foils with fairly flat section and very fine tips.  Not retracting those very far.  No pictures of the cockpit yet.  Even painted it still looks like a beast.

Google translation

The new IMOCA Thomas Ruyant unveiled in Lorient before its launch tomorrow
Thomas Ruyant today proceeded to the construction site of his latest IMOCA, prelude to the launch planned tomorrow at Lorient-La Base. " The boat is bursting with all the splendor of its lines, its colors and its foils."



Credit: P.Bouras

Partner search
Several investors have already been seduced, allowing the construction of this new 60-foot IMOCA on Verdier plans.

Advens, a leader in Cybersecurity, is one of the first to join. "TR Racing is a very professional structure that has just been proven in technology with the construction of Advens for Cybersecurity" says Alexandre Fayeulle, CEO of Advens.

TR Racing is looking for partners for the 2020, 2021 and 2022 seasons. Focus on the Vendée Globe, the Solitaire Urgo Le Figaro or The Ocean Race.

Thomas Ruyant, skipper: 
 "It's a happy day for the entire TR Racing team, but also for the architects (Guillaume Verdier and the boat manufacturer (Persico).) The boat is bursting with all the splendor of its lines, colors and colors. The construction chapter is coming to an end, and we will open tomorrow with the actual launching, a new era in the navigation mode of the Vendée Globe sailboats, and it's up to us to tame it! "

Antoine Koch (Co-Skipper for the Transat Jacques Vabre): 
"This day generates great impatience to discover on the water all the secrets of the boat. The goal is to "decode" the boat in preparation for Thomas's Vendée Globe next year. We have one year to find all the keys to the good operation of Advens for Cybersecurity. "


By the Editor
Source: TB Press

https://www.letelegramme.fr/voile/imoca-thomas-ruyant-presente-son-nouveau-plan-verdier-video-06-09-2019-12376287.php

and more...it's better on the link than below.


Thomas Ruyant presents his new Verdier plan [video]



 Posted on 06 September 2019 at 16h08 

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After more than a year of construction, nearly 50,000 hours of work, including more than half at Persico in Italy, Thomas Ruyant released his Imoca monohull this Friday at Lorient La Base. The Imoca, signed Guillaume Verdier, will be launched this Saturday, the first navigation being scheduled in a week. The northern skipper will participate in the Transat Jacques Vabre with Antoine Koch.


The 60 feet was not built in Brittany but it is yet a hangar Lorient that he left this Friday at La Base. The monohull will be launched Saturday and Thomas Ruyant has planned to sail next weekend. If he has a partner who accompanies him on the Transat Jacques Vabre and until the end of the year, the northern skipper must still find a title partner for the Vendée Globe 2020.









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Pretty impressive foils (Pierre Bouras)






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[jb5]

https://mailchi.mp/tipandshaft.com/tip-shaft-176-jrmie-beyou-charal-est-capable-de-voler-presque-100-quels-concurrents-pour-the-ocean-race?e=9a497c6fa7

Very interesting interview with Jérémie Beyou (Charal).  Possible to foil almost 100% of the time which is attributed to longer shafts.  Hull optimized for high speeds, drags water at 8-10 knots. 12-17 kn does not exist, goes right to 17. New foils coming in Feb/March.  He wont speak to the shape.  No plans to do TOR.  Maybe Ultim.  Interesting comments on the competition.  He feels the boat is now highly reliable. 

 

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[jb5]

http://www.courseaularge.com/thomas-ruyant-imoca-advens-mis-a-leau.html

Pictures on the link.  Impressive organization Thomas has put together.

Google translation

Thomas Ruyant proceeded this Friday at the exit of the site of his Imoca prelude to a launch planned this Saturday at Lorient-La Base. Based on the plans of Guillaume Verdier's Super Sixty designed to compete in the former Volvo Ocean Race, Thomas Ruyant's team with Antoine Koch drew him an IMOCA capable of competing with the other 8 new generation IMOCA newcomers who will take the start of the next Vendée Globe. By then, the timing will be tight for Thomas to come on the Azimut Challenge to confront the others before participating in the Transat Jacques Vabre.
TR Racing is the structure founded in February 2018 by Thomas Ruyant with the aim of offering potential partners ocean projects "turnkey". By integrating the management of all the technical, logistical and sporting parameters of a high-performance racing yacht, TR Racing brings to every advertiser the leisure to manage his own communication around an eminently professional project, totally dedicated to the performance and sharing the adventure and innovation values of deep-sea sailing.

A technical, logistical and sporting structure, TR Racing opens the door to all the potential of communication specific to sailing and offshore racing. It has already attracted several investors who have allowed the construction of this new 60-foot IMOCA monohull on Verdier plans.

The company Advens, a leader in Cybersecurity, and who accompanies Thomas since the Transat Jacques Vabre 2015, is one of the first to join and marry for the year 2019 TR Racing technology and sports project. "TR Racing is a very professional structure that has just been proven in technology with the construction of Advens for Cybersecurity" says Alexandre Fayeulle, CEO of Advens. "The team has a very high technical know-how. It is now muscle marketing and marketing services and communication programs around offshore racing. There is huge potential for commercial development around races and these Formula 1 seas. There is indisputably a market to exploit with companies like Advens, anchored in the world of new technologies and Tech. "

"TR Racing puts on the market of the Vendée Globe an exceptional and unique offer," explains Marcus Hutchinson, Team Manager. "A state-of-the-art boat, a homogeneous and highly professional team, and a skipper knowledgeable of his art, all turnkey, to seize for any company eager to taste the thrill of the Vendée Globe! "

The company currently consists of 13 employees who work in different areas (design office, technical, communication ...).

TR Racing is looking for partners for the 2020, 2021 and 2022 seasons. Focus on the Vendée Globe, the Solitaire Urgo Le Figaro or The Ocean Race ...

They said :

Thomas Ruyant: "It's a happy day for all the TR Racing team, but also for the architects (Guillaume Verdier and the boat manufacturer (Persico).) The boat is bursting with all the splendor of its lines, its colors The construction chapter is coming to an end, and we will open tomorrow with the actual launch, a new era in the navigation mode of the Vendée Globe sailboats. 'master all the subtleties.

Antoine Koch (Co-Skipper for the Transat Jacques Vabre): "This day generates great impatience to discover on the water all the secrets of the boat. The goal is to "decode" the boat in preparation for Thomas's Vendée Globe next year. We have one year to provide Thomas with all the keys to making Advens for Cybersecurity work. "

Thomas Ruyant: Skipper
Antoine Koch: Co-Skipper
Marcus Hutchinson: Team Manager
Laurent Bourguès: Boat Captain
François Pernelle: Design Manager
Madeleine Marchant: Marketing Manager
Lucas Montagne: Electronics Manager
Christophe Dansart: Composite Manager
Simon Vasseur: Seamanship and Rigging Manager
Arthur Bois: Preparator
Antoine Brunel: Seaman Technician
Frederic Teil: Seaman Technician
Pascal Fayot: Composite Technician

 

[ctutmark]

just looking at the pics and videos from the Arkea official launch event- Here's a pic from their FB page

Appears they added a circular hull opening in the hull on the starboard side just forward of the foils, lower right corner of the image. 

The paint edge makes it look like a recent addition. Have not seen the port side to see if there's a twin on the other side. What is it?