The Merits of a J9

Matagi

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11 hours ago, B dock said:

Here is recently released video on board


This just shows to me that this design and this specimen are not as well thought-through as previous designs. Also: that video is not convincing at all.

Example: when Jeff Johnstone claims how great it would be to sit in 20 kts of wind under a dodger, punching a chart plotter on the back of the cabin.

Than: cut to the next scene. Stuart Johnstone 'tries' a single-handed tack and you can see how far back he is behind the winches even with the tiller extension, that will also always get in the way of the main sheet in this setup. So to single-hand this, I need an auto-pilot, right?

'Tacking through 75 degrees'? Hard to imagine if you have to let go of your tiller. And if I wanted to spend that amount of money to sail something with 'just the mainsail' I would buy me something with just a mainsail.  

Bonus: I absolutely don't get the below. It's cramped, untidy (mind you: this being the marketing head making a video here!), cables and tubes everywhere, shrouds and screws waiting to punch your head. That starbord settee is there for what? When you want to change your shoes?

Honestly: you would not believe this is the yard that brought the J/111 to a worldwide success after looking at this, in my view.

I believe a J/100 in a good condition would be a superior choice.

Sorry.

 

Monster Mash

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On 2/2/2022 at 4:36 AM, ruckus25 said:


n this video she shows an anchor locker up front but on the foredeck I see no anchor locker hatch> Do they expect someone to climb into the forepeak

 retrieve the anchor, muscle it topside then reverse the process when hoisting?

 

Crash

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n this video she shows an anchor locker up front but on the foredeck I see no anchor locker hatch> Do they expect someone to climb into the forepeak

 retrieve the anchor, muscle it topside then reverse the process when hoisting?
Not sure she should have called it an “anchor locker”. I think it’s really just access to hardware fittings for sprit, pulpits, forestry, lights, etc.

I agree, no sign of an anchor locker hatch on deck

 

Monster Mash

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Not sure she should have called it an “anchor locker”. I think it’s really just access to hardware fittings for sprit, pulpits, forestry, lights, etc.

I think you are right.

 

Black Jack

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This just shows to me that this design and this specimen are not as well thought-through as previous designs. Also: that video is not convincing at all.

Example: when Jeff Johnstone claims how great it would be to sit in 20 kts of wind under a dodger, punching a chart plotter on the back of the cabin.

Than: cut to the next scene. Stuart Johnstone 'tries' a single-handed tack and you can see how far back he is behind the winches even with the tiller extension, that will also always get in the way of the main sheet in this setup. So to single-hand this, I need an auto-pilot, right?

'Tacking through 75 degrees'? Hard to imagine if you have to let go of your tiller. And if I wanted to spend that amount of money to sail something with 'just the mainsail' I would buy me something with just a mainsail.  

Bonus: I absolutely don't get the below. It's cramped, untidy (mind you: this being the marketing head making a video here!), cables and tubes everywhere, shrouds and screws waiting to punch your head. That starbord settee is there for what? When you want to change your shoes?

Honestly: you would not believe this is the yard that brought the J/111 to a worldwide success after looking at this, in my view.

I believe a J/100 in a good condition would be a superior choice.

Sorry.
I was watching the tack - and the boat appeared quite balanced. If both winches were electric push button mounted on either side there would less issues singlehanded. Opting for a different tiller could make a difference.  Simple new J boat for day sailing and nap taking. A boat you’d let the kids take out, drink beers and turn into a hotbox and below where teenage love would happen. Wipe down is easy and will wear a long time since there is so little to rub. 

I was thinking the j28 or 29 both may make better all-a-rounders but they are old now and are not going to as user friendly as this one is out of the box. Perfect for those who sail just a few months of summer or don’t want to waste time doing work or cleaning up the boat. In 15 years - I might very well have one of these (used).

 
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MiddleAgedGuy

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I was watching the tack - and the boat appeared quite balanced. If both winches were electric push button mounted on either side there would less issues singlehanded. Opting for a different tiller could make a difference.  Simple new J boat for day sailing and nap taking. A boat you’d let the kids take out, drink beers and turn into a hotbox and below where teenage love would happen. Wipe down is easy and will wear a long time since there is so little to rub. 

I was thinking the j28 or 29 both may make better all-a-rounders but they are old now and are not going to as user friendly as this one is out of the box. Perfect for those who sail just a few months of summer or don’t want to waste time doing work or cleaning up the boat. In 15 years - I might very well have one of these (used).
Pretty much sums up why I chose a J/9 (except the teenage love part... although I do have two teenagers so maybe I need to keep an eye on them around this boat).  Been around the water my whole life but took up sailing only a few years ago.  I wanted a simple boat that I will use regularly with friends and family, or alone; electric drive means no diesel smell or trips to the fuel dock, sails well on main alone when I'm single-handing because said teenagers are not interested in going out with their old man.  No particular interest in the racing scene, though a three-bridge fiasco is definitely in the cards.  I'm apparently not a typical sailing anarchy type by the looks of this thread but everyone's opinion is valid.

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Black Jack

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Pretty much sums up why I chose a J/9 (except the teenage love part... although I do have two teenagers so maybe I need to keep an eye on them around this boat).  Been around the water my whole life but took up sailing only a few years ago.  I wanted a simple boat that I will use regularly with friends and family, or alone; electric drive means no diesel smell or trips to the fuel dock, sails well on main alone when I'm single-handing because said teenagers are not interested in going out with their old man.  No particular interest in the racing scene, though a three-bridge fiasco is definitely in the cards.  I'm apparently not a typical sailing anarchy type by the looks of this thread but everyone's opinion is valid.

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Yowsers! Nice striking color. What a choice for the bay and sailing like most of us do. Really look forward to seeing you sail her in and out of the estuary.

is that her color or a wrap? .

 
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A.C. Hill

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Thanks, Bahama blue.    J boats offers a torqeedo pod drive on this boat. 
Cooky delivered a boat to me in December and told me he had to deliver two J/9s to Cali in January/February.  He said one new owner was anxious to get his and did not want to wait on double loading which would have saved a good chunk on the delivery charge.  That's what new-boat fever can do.

Cooky's trailer is so long I doubt anything would overhang even if two J/9s were loaded.

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SF Dede

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There were a few around when the model first came out, but I don't think that enough showed up for a class start. I checked the registrations for the Three Bridge Fiasco. There is one J-100 registered - perhaps reach out to that guy and see what he says.


Pretty much sums up why I chose a J/9 (except the teenage love part... although I do have two teenagers so maybe I need to keep an eye on them around this boat).  Been around the water my whole life but took up sailing only a few years ago.  I wanted a simple boat that I will use regularly with friends and family, or alone; electric drive means no diesel smell or trips to the fuel dock, sails well on main alone when I'm single-handing because said teenagers are not interested in going out with their old man.  No particular interest in the racing scene, though a three-bridge fiasco is definitely in the cards.  I'm apparently not a typical sailing anarchy type by the looks of this thread but everyone's opinion is valid.

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Wow, she’s beautiful.  How did you option her beyond the code 0 package and electric drive?  When does she arrive?

 

B dock

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Looks like another set of winches then the one shown in the video.  That will work much better shorthanded in my opinion.  Nice color.

 
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MiddleAgedGuy

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Cooky delivered a boat to me in December and told me he had to deliver two J/9s to Cali in January/February.  He said one new owner was anxious to get his and did not want to wait on double loading which would have saved a good chunk on the delivery charge.  That's what new-boat fever can do.

Cooky's trailer is so long I doubt anything would overhang even if two J/9s were loaded.

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Another blue boat already in CA, then.  Neat.  Mine should be arriving toward end of Feb or early Mar with a J/99.  Can't wait to meet her.  :)

 

MiddleAgedGuy

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Yowsers! Nice striking color. What a choice for the bay and sailing like most of us do. Really look forward to seeing you sail her in and out of the estuary.

is that her color or a wrap? .
That's paint, not a wrap.  I happened to be in HNL last year just after all the transpac boats had arrived and in the yacht harbor.  I kept looking at that blue boat (BadPak) and that boat was, in part, the inspiration for my color choice.  

 

Stanno

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Pretty much sums up why I chose a J/9 (except the teenage love part... although I do have two teenagers so maybe I need to keep an eye on them around this boat).  Been around the water my whole life but took up sailing only a few years ago.  I wanted a simple boat that I will use regularly with friends and family, or alone; electric drive means no diesel smell or trips to the fuel dock, sails well on main alone when I'm single-handing because said teenagers are not interested in going out with their old man.  No particular interest in the racing scene, though a three-bridge fiasco is definitely in the cards.  I'm apparently not a typical sailing anarchy type by the looks of this thread but everyone's opinion is valid.

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She looks gorgeous - congratulations!!! 

 

captnjoe

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Looks like another set of winches then the one shown in the video.  That will work much better shorthanded in my opinion.  Nice color.
Extra winches may not be a J/9. The boat on the trailer has a different bow pulpit.  Actually looks more like a J/100 because the headstay is back a bit to allow for the asym to fly without a sprit.

 
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