The November 2022 election

phillysailor

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I’m starting to think of V3 as a laughing observer with no real opinions, just investment in a facial recognition company losing market share in China.

He can only make money at scale from authoritarian regimes.
 

Olsonist

Disgusting Liberal Elitist
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I'm still wondering why @Joker's girl and also his boy did so poorly in the Alaskan general. Also, what's up with Democrats and moderate Republicans banding together to freeze out the MAGAts? How is the legislature going to overturn this atrocity in the near future without the MAGAts?

Maybe it was black ninja garbed Multnomah County Democrat special forces coming ashore in the dead of night in carbon fiber stealth landing craft funded by George Soros and then reprogramming the ballot counters. Yeah, that's the ticket because that is the depth of evil which disgusting liberal elitists such as myself will go to. I know. Believe me, I know.

That or maybe Alaskans are just tiring of the bullshit.
 

Steam Flyer

Sophisticated Yet Humble
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I sure don't remember any of us dems whining like a little bitch along the lines of V3 about the election results. I remember discussions over the frustrations regarding the Electoral College system, but none rose to the whiny bitch comments of V3. I guess republicans are just emotionally high strung.

<music> Fee-ee-eelings... Ooo-oo-oooo FEE-EEE-EEELLLingzzzzzz
It's all about their widdle Fee-ee-LLings, OOoo-ooo <fade music>
 

Sol Rosenberg

Girthy Member
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I guess all the Republican-appointed vote fraud busters are actually far-left activists helping with the cover-up of the Big Overthrow
They serve as a reminder to minorities of what will happen if they have the audacity to exercise their right to vote. They will get a visit shortly before the next election, and a highly publicized arrest. Once the cameras are off and the desired Electoral turnout achieved, the charges can be quietly dismissed.
 

bridhb

Super Anarchist
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I sure don't remember any of us dems whining like a little bitch along the lines of V3 about the election results. I remember discussions over the frustrations regarding the Electoral College system, but none rose to the whiny bitch comments of V3. I guess republicans are just emotionally high strung.
I don't know...I whine about the electoral college just about every time I see it brought up. I guess that is just one though.
 

veni vidi vici

Omne quod audimus est opinio, non res. Omnia videm
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Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died

Everybody talking to their pockets
Everybody wants a box of chocolates
And a long stem rose
Everybody knows

Everybody knows that you love me baby
Everybody knows that you really do
Everybody knows that you've been faithful
Ah give or take a night or two
Everybody knows you've been discreet
But there were so many people you just had to meet
Without your clothes
And everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

And everybody knows that it's now or never
Everybody knows that it's me or you
And everybody knows that you live forever
Ah when you've done a line or two
Everybody knows the deal is rotten
Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton
For your ribbons and bows
And everybody knows

And everybody knows that the Plague is coming
Everybody knows that it's moving fast
Everybody knows that the naked man and woman
Are just a shining artifact of the past
Everybody knows the scene is dead
But there's gonna be a meter on your bed
That will disclose
What everybody knows

And everybody knows that you're in trouble
Everybody knows what you've been through
From the bloody cross on top of Calvary
To the beach of Malibu
Everybody knows it's coming apart
Take one last look at this Sacred Heart
Before it blows
And everybody knows
Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died

Everybody talking to their pockets
Everybody wants a box of chocolates
And a long stem rose
Everybody knows

Everybody knows that you love me baby
Everybody knows that you really do
Everybody knows that you've been faithful
Ah give or take a night or two
Everybody knows you've been discreet
But there were so many people you just had to meet
Without your clothes
And everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

And everybody knows that it's now or never
Everybody knows that it's me or you
And everybody knows that you live forever
Ah when you've done a line or two
Everybody knows the deal is rotten
Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton
For your ribbons and bows
And everybody knows

And everybody knows that the Plague is coming
Everybody knows that it's moving fast
Everybody knows that the naked man and woman
Are just a shining artifact of the past
Everybody knows the scene is dead
But there's gonna be a meter on your bed
That will disclose
What everybody knows

And everybody knows that you're in trouble
Everybody knows what you've been through
From the bloody cross on top of Calvary
To the beach of Malibu
Everybody knows it's coming apart
Take one last look at this Sacred Heart
Before it blows
And everybody knows

.
LC
 

3to1

Super Anarchist
I sure don't remember any of us dems whining like a little bitch along the lines of V3 about the election results. I remember discussions over the frustrations regarding the Electoral College system, but none rose to the whiny bitch comments of V3. I guess republicans are just emotionally high strung.
yeah, blind neurotic shitbags I mean they're just emotionally high strung.
 

The Joker

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And, Alaskan voters.

But, you think the legislature should overrule them.
Did I say that? I stated that the legislature will make corrections. I’m talking about the way it works not correcting the results. Which was why I posted the WAPO piece that explains some tweaks they could make.
I doubt the majority of Alaskans understood how it would work when they approved it, now that they see the impact on their only congress person tweaking it will be a priority. I congratulate the winner. She won under the system in place. Remember that next time posters start bitching about the EC. Now it’s off to bed been driving since early this morning.
 

Bus Driver

Bacon Quality Control Specialist
Clearly, you feel the wrong person won. And, you think the Legislature is likely to meddle.

And, you approve of said meddling.

The only reason she won is the silly ranked choice voting. I suspect the legislature in Alaska will be looking at a correction in the very near future.

Something tells me you would object if we were discussing a Republican having won in a traditionally blue state, and the need to the Legislature to fix the election process.
 

The Joker

Super Anarchist
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World of Shit
Clearly, you feel the wrong person won. And, you think the Legislature is likely to meddle.

And, you approve of said meddling.



Something tells me you would object if we were discussing a Republican having won in a traditionally blue state, and the need to the Legislature to fix the election process.
I think the winner won under the system in place. I think that system has an obvious flaw backed up with the link I provided from the WaPo.
It is not meddling to update how elections are run in fact the constitution makes it clear that state legislatures have that power. The original vote to move to that system barely passed. So adjusting it to reflect the true will of the majority is not out of the question.


Alaska voters approved the state’s new election system in a 2020 ballot initiative, when it passed by just 1 percent — fewer than 4,000 votes
 

Marty Gingras

Mid-range Anarchist
I think the winner won under the system in place. I think that system has an obvious flaw backed up with the link I provided from the WaPo.
Turns out the WaPo article you linked to was an opinion piece.

I spent about an hour just now reading-up on Alaska's system, including how the initiative was developed and outreach they do. The initiative was developed in a tri-partisan fashion. Rank-choice voting was part of a fairly comprehensive revamping of their voting system. The whole thing was transparent. I'm confident the voters weren't dumb or duped and I bet they don't amend the process along the lines of that WaPo opinion piece.
 

Cal20sailor

Super Anarchist
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Detroit
I think the winner won under the system in place. I think that system has an obvious flaw backed up with the link I provided from the WaPo.
It is not meddling to update how elections are run in fact the constitution makes it clear that state legislatures have that power. The original vote to move to that system barely passed. So adjusting it to reflect the true will of the majority is not out of the question.


Alaska voters approved the state’s new election system in a 2020 ballot initiative, when it passed by just 1 percent — fewer than 4,000 votes
I like that you provide a basis for your positions. I agree with everything you've said about Alaska's system and how a more popular candidate can fall through the cracks. Why not pick up the same argument with the Electoral College system for national elections? You really can't argue one and deny the other.

I've spent many cold weeks in AK, they are the Alabama of the North.
 

badlatitude

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CAN'T FIND THE FRAUD

Search for Widespread Voter Fraud Finds Very Little Voter Fraud​

“The whole concept of voter impersonation fraud is such a horribly exaggerated problem," one expert says
BY PETER WADE


IN THE WAKE of Donald Trump’s allegations of massive voter fraud that he claims cost him the 2020 election, Republicans in a number of states set up law enforcement units to investigate potential instances of election fraud. According to an Associated Press investigation, these units have only received “scattered complaints” in the weeks following the midterms, and investigations have yielded “no indication of systemic problems.”

“I am not aware of any significant detection of fraud on Election Day, but that’s not surprising,” Paul Smith, senior vice president of the Campaign Legal Center, told the AP. “The whole concept of voter impersonation fraud is such a horribly exaggerated problem. It doesn’t change the outcome of the election, it’s a felony, you risk getting put in jail and you have a high possibility of getting caught. It’s a rare phenomena.”

States including Virginia, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, and Texas all created election integrity units following Trump’s allegations of rampant voter fraud. The former president’s dangerous and false rhetoric that the 2020 election was stolen from him seems to have convinced a significant number of Republicans that voter fraud is a real issue. Ahead of this month’s midterms, 45 percent of Republican respondents said they had little to no confidence that votes would be accurately counted.



But according to the AP’s investigation in Georgia and five other battleground states that Trump claimed were stolen from him in 2020, there is no evidence that widespread fraud is taking place. In fact, the AP reported, certification of the results in most states are going “smoothly” and “with few complaints.” In fact, Georgia has not opened any election investigations under a newly passed law that gave state law enforcement the authority to investigate potential voter fraud without a request from election officials. Its only recent investigation into voter fraud concerns a 2021 allegation that voting equipment was breached in a county Trump won by almost 40 points.

In Florida, under Gov. Ron DeSantis who is no Trump fan but who still took up his cause of hunting down election fraud, the state’s election unit arrested 20 people for illegally voting in 2020 because they had a prior felony conviction. But some of those people received voter ID cards from the state, and charges have been dropped or dismissed in at least two of those 20 cases. Florida officials did not respond to the AP’s questions about fraud allegations in the 2022 elections. In Virginia, a spokesperson for the state’s attorney general said the Election Integrity Unit has received some complaints but declined to comment on whether those complaints led to investigations.

When it comes to voting and election fairness, fraud has been repeatedly proven to be rare. Voter suppression, on the other hand, poses a much larger threat to our democracy.
 

Bus Driver

Bacon Quality Control Specialist
CAN'T FIND THE FRAUD

Search for Widespread Voter Fraud Finds Very Little Voter Fraud​

“The whole concept of voter impersonation fraud is such a horribly exaggerated problem," one expert says
BY PETER WADE


IN THE WAKE of Donald Trump’s allegations of massive voter fraud that he claims cost him the 2020 election, Republicans in a number of states set up law enforcement units to investigate potential instances of election fraud. According to an Associated Press investigation, these units have only received “scattered complaints” in the weeks following the midterms, and investigations have yielded “no indication of systemic problems.”

“I am not aware of any significant detection of fraud on Election Day, but that’s not surprising,” Paul Smith, senior vice president of the Campaign Legal Center, told the AP. “The whole concept of voter impersonation fraud is such a horribly exaggerated problem. It doesn’t change the outcome of the election, it’s a felony, you risk getting put in jail and you have a high possibility of getting caught. It’s a rare phenomena.”

States including Virginia, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, and Texas all created election integrity units following Trump’s allegations of rampant voter fraud. The former president’s dangerous and false rhetoric that the 2020 election was stolen from him seems to have convinced a significant number of Republicans that voter fraud is a real issue. Ahead of this month’s midterms, 45 percent of Republican respondents said they had little to no confidence that votes would be accurately counted.



But according to the AP’s investigation in Georgia and five other battleground states that Trump claimed were stolen from him in 2020, there is no evidence that widespread fraud is taking place. In fact, the AP reported, certification of the results in most states are going “smoothly” and “with few complaints.” In fact, Georgia has not opened any election investigations under a newly passed law that gave state law enforcement the authority to investigate potential voter fraud without a request from election officials. Its only recent investigation into voter fraud concerns a 2021 allegation that voting equipment was breached in a county Trump won by almost 40 points.

In Florida, under Gov. Ron DeSantis who is no Trump fan but who still took up his cause of hunting down election fraud, the state’s election unit arrested 20 people for illegally voting in 2020 because they had a prior felony conviction. But some of those people received voter ID cards from the state, and charges have been dropped or dismissed in at least two of those 20 cases. Florida officials did not respond to the AP’s questions about fraud allegations in the 2022 elections. In Virginia, a spokesperson for the state’s attorney general said the Election Integrity Unit has received some complaints but declined to comment on whether those complaints led to investigations.

When it comes to voting and election fairness, fraud has been repeatedly proven to be rare. Voter suppression, on the other hand, poses a much larger threat to our democracy.
The Faithful don't need evidence to support their allegations. They have Faith.

Hence, the label.
 




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