wonderbrom
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After the start of the first leg someone was complaining about Sam's commenting. Maybe its just me but I think she improved. Like she had time to prepare herself for this start. Kudos.
The Ocean Race 2023 leg 2: Cabo Verde to Capetown
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dg_sailingfan
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They have cut out the 30-Minute Pre-Show from the YT Broadcast. So stupid!
Laser1
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That was some dick on the ......... front page. If you have lived in a foreign country long enough and only spoken that local lingo you sometimes struggle to find the right words in your mother tongue. I think its sweet that she speaks Franglais
Fabricensis
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What happened to Guyot, they are trailing behind the field
Guyot is the heaviest boat of the fleet, older generation… I'm not surprised they're behind in light wind conditions.
Schakel
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Biotherm in a small lead at the moment. There is no waypoint at Fernando de Noronha.
So how do the boats get their slingshot in the tradewinds heading to Capetown?
That will be interesting to watch.
South is king in my point of view.
Fabricensis
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Now I'm no Herman but there appears to be a window through the doldrums openign up in about 30 hours and closing again in about 60. Boats are about 850 nm away, so they would need to stay above 14 kn VMC in about 15 kn of wind which is hardly feasible.
According to ECMWF there will be a lull until the wind comes back during the night of monday on tuesday, then pretty stable 10-15 kn upwind conditions all the way to cape town.
According to ECMWF there will be a lull until the wind comes back during the night of monday on tuesday, then pretty stable 10-15 kn upwind conditions all the way to cape town.
shebeen
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no headline sponsor.
I'm interested to see what the CT stopover village will be like.
Normally lots of razzmatazz, don't think there will be much more than what is required as there is no brand pushing their name.
I take a stumbling pro like Sam who knows her stuff any time over a slick, well versed talking head.That was some dick on the ......... front page. If you have lived in a foreign country long enough and only spoken that local lingo you sometimes struggle to find the right words in your mother tongue. I think its sweet that she speaks Franglais
The coverage I watched was good enough..saw the different angles..saw Guyot get away and showed the roll peels of 11th hour and Holcim A / Code sails and the barehead set of the soft downwind sail of Guyot and Biotherm that cost them the lead but the placings have changed as have the courses...the commentators new what they were talking about...so okay to see, considering how impoverished the place Cap Vert is...good on the organisers for making it a stopover
Its been great to see Mindelo again and the graphic of the volcanic Sao Vicente as an overview. where they have the biggest crayfish..got some great stories from being there and the 40 knots between the massive Santo Antao and Sao Vicente arriving and leaving...
Its been great to see Mindelo again and the graphic of the volcanic Sao Vicente as an overview. where they have the biggest crayfish..got some great stories from being there and the 40 knots between the massive Santo Antao and Sao Vicente arriving and leaving...
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Slark
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Production was a bit lacking, this is the "view" of the start. I like Sam, she know IMOCA's and the TOR. At this point it is what it is, afraid this may be the last one OR.
giegs
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It seemed like they were a bit embarrassed by the production quality and it turned into a distraction from providing coverage.
How much heavier is GUYOT than the competition? It's the only boat with a listed weight on the IMOCA site at 7.5t.
www.imoca.org
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How much heavier is GUYOT than the competition? It's the only boat with a listed weight on the IMOCA site at 7.5t.
GUYOT ENVIRONNEMENT - TEAM EUROPE
www.imoca.org
HOLCIM - PRB
www.imoca.org
11TH HOUR RACING TEAM
www.imoca.org
BIOTHERM
www.imoca.org
TEAM MALIZIA
www.imoca.org
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Herman
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I'm afraid that pressure and wind is not projected with GFS until the boats have passed Neptune / the equator. Just below him some winds are projected. See the red arrows for the projected boat positions and the blue arrows on the track for the apparent wind speed & direction in pic 1.
I was testing 2 new GFS GRIB source files for the same boat position. With a longer 16-days forecasting period but less frequent: twice a day. Comparing against the 10-day forecasting GFS with 3 hr timesteps these seems more valid. Thanks for the heads-up @Oxon!
Using the longer forecast cuts 1 day from the ETA due to what I will explain below. ETA Jan 12th for Biotherm.
In the short term I don't see anything interesting atm to post today as the boats are still very close to each other.
But on the longer term, when to boats are more on the Capetown latitude, things could get more interesting. In these long-run GFS is around Monday Feb 6th a LP projected (see big blue arrow) that could an be an excellent ride towards the finish if you can a) catch it in the NW corner b) don't drop off too soon. c) the projection holds up. The boat is projected at the red arrow for both GFS files - almost at the same location.
As some of you know, hitching a LP or even a storm has been done before in the last VG in the Atlantic by Alex Thompson and Jean Le Cam if my memory serves my right. But only the very brave and very competent IMOCA skippers use a storm as Uber.
See pic 3 (zoomed) for the ride that you don't want to miss if it shows up.
Pic 4 (superzoom) suggest in 48 hrs time 840 nm could be covered between the red arrow positions. We will have to see if this happens or not. So remember the leg could be won in the southern Atlantic in the LP alley.
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dg_sailingfan
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They have cut out the entire Pre-Show from the YT Broadcast. Ridiculous!!!
Fortunately I have Discovery+ now!
Notquitecapnron
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On the broadcast, it seems to me that there is very little coordination between commentator and camera shot. On a few occasions commentator would be making, or setting up a point per subject/boat on screen, then suddenly video cuts away to another shot that had no relevance to commentary. Not much the commentators can do about that. Seems commentators are chasing the camera shot all the time with no warning when the shot will change...or to what.
gaw
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Malizia has done a very short gybe onto port tack before gybing back:
https://exocet.cloud/grafana/d/bsbc_7MGx/malizia-public-dashboard-the-ocean-race?orgId=15
?Sail change or to get into the more northerly breeze with the others?
https://exocet.cloud/grafana/d/bsbc_7MGx/malizia-public-dashboard-the-ocean-race?orgId=15
?Sail change or to get into the more northerly breeze with the others?
Loose Cannon
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Throwing this down now - it looks like there is a small path through the doldrums east of the usual target path. I think that is a winning move. Somebody on the virtual game will take it but I doubt any racers will.
wildbirdtoo
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Some lovely shots- (including top of the mast sail untangling)
