The Ocean Race 2023 leg 3: Capetown to Itajaí, Brazil

Chasm

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It looks like BIOTHERM is heading towards Mar del Plata in Argentina. They potentially might not Finish this Leg.
There is not much wind where they are according to tracker and windy, 4-5kts.

They are still racing as far as tracker and social media are concerned, using the engine would be faster than ~2kts.
Even if they go for a closer harbor than Itajaí there is still the option to suspend racing for a minimum of 12 hours, do a (temp) repair, and still get 2 points for the leg. Obviously depends on the kind and amount of damage.
(They are still more than 100nm from the finish. No suspension of racing that close to the finish.)
 

dg_sailingfan

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There is not much wind where they are according to tracker and windy, 4-5kts.

They are still racing as far as tracker and social media are concerned, using the engine would be faster than ~2kts.
Even if they go for a closer harbor than Itajaí there is still the option to suspend racing for a minimum of 12 hours, do a (temp) repair, and still get 2 points for the leg. Obviously depends on the kind and amount of damage.
All true what you say mate :) but they are basically sitting in no mans land at the moment. Worse for them that they still at or slightly above 40 Degrees south. They are currently approximately 200 nm off the coast of Argentina.
Yes, they can do onboard repairs but they are at a latitude where the next big system could roll over them wiping out their repairs.
Wouldn't it be smarter to use the engine and get to shore before the next system comes?
 

Swanno

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No disagreement on that but if you are going to voice your opinion on this matter, please don't quote the original post, or if you do, delete the offensive remark. Even if FB deletes the post, the quotes will remain in perpetuity for all to see, unless you go back and edit.
Thanks for the suggestion. I have deleted the quoted section
 

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From Vessel Finder
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A Chinese gybe on a sailing vessel is a type of gybe where the upper section of the main sail moves cross the boat, filling from the opposite side, whilst the lower section and boom remains on the original side of the vessel. - On the Chinese Sailing Junks where the sails were fully battened some times this happened and since the Europeans were sailing square riggers or worse it was a unique problem to the Chinese and hence the name …… now to be pedantic …. The Ocean Race yachts are probably “crash gybing” …..
 

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Leeway is definitely included in the TW calculations in any decent instrument system.
Yes it is, but then it is ground wind, when referenced to the water (as is a straight calc done on boatspeed and wind angle ) it is known as TW... when leeway currents etc. are counted it is ground wind. Two very different things.
 

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Yes it is, but then it is ground wind, when referenced to the water (as is a straight calc done on boatspeed and wind angle ) it is known as TW... when leeway currents etc. are counted it is ground wind. Two very different things.
That is not correct - true wind includes leeway. TWA is wrt course.

Similarly, most VPPs treat TWA as wrt course.

You have to go back to something like a H2000 for TWA to be wrt heading, although I recollect H3000 tried to correct things eary in its life.

Ground wind is something else.
 
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