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Since the other threads on the topic have already been polluted, I wanted to start one fresh now that NC and the DOJ have sued each other over the issue. I actually applaud that the NC governor has filed suit and is going to force the courts and/or congress to clarify this issue.
All joking aside - I am conflicted on this issue. I can see both sides have a legitimate point.
First of all - I think the T part of the LGBT movement was feeling left out after the big win of the gay marriage ruling by the SCOTUS and they are pushing hard to get similar cases regarding this whole gender identity BS to the high court. I think its actually going to backfire on them as I don't think there is the stomach in the court or in the US population as a whole to upend centuries of tradition over bathroom privacy. When it was about sucking dick or munching carpet in the privacy of your own bedroom - I think society finally shrugged and said "meh" because what gays do on their own does not affect the rest of us. But now you are changing the dynamic and forcing the rest us to deal with someone's fucked up gender confusion issues literally right where we shit. I think they have pushed too far and will actually hurt their cause when the inevitable backlash happens.
On the one hand - I can understand some confused tranny would like to shit, shower and shave in the bathroom corresponding to where he/she/it thinks he/she/it most fits in based on how they feel.
However, on the other hand - I can also understand that the actual people with actual genitalia that correspond to the bath/shower room might be equally uncomfortable having someone of the opposite genitalia showering in the locker room that doesn't match.
I personally couldn't give a shit (no pun intended) if some chick who thought she was a boy wanted to shower next to me. Whatever. But I would not have wanted my daughter to have to shower next to some tranny boy prancing around in the girl's shower room in elementary school after PE.
There comes a point where the forced accommodation of the few seriously impacts the rights and privacy of the many. Should we ignore it? No. We should attempt an accommodation where feasible that protects the rights and privacy of both parties. But there also comes a point where the accommodation goes overboard. I don't think we can, nor should, please ALL the people ALL the time. Where it makes sense, have a gender neutral BR or shower that ensures privacy. And if existing facilities don't allow that, then find temp accommodations for the trannyboy - like when a school offered to let him/her/it use the faculty BR. And then upgrade facilities over time. But I think it is wrong to force already cash strapped municipalities to rush to build all new tranny bathrooms and showers in every city in the land just to accommodate a few confused caitlyns.
But the confused caitlyns don't want that. They are forcing the issue down the state's throats because they think they have political momentum on their side. Well they don't and I think they are going to rue the day when the T part of the LGBT movement over-reached.
All joking aside - I am conflicted on this issue. I can see both sides have a legitimate point.
First of all - I think the T part of the LGBT movement was feeling left out after the big win of the gay marriage ruling by the SCOTUS and they are pushing hard to get similar cases regarding this whole gender identity BS to the high court. I think its actually going to backfire on them as I don't think there is the stomach in the court or in the US population as a whole to upend centuries of tradition over bathroom privacy. When it was about sucking dick or munching carpet in the privacy of your own bedroom - I think society finally shrugged and said "meh" because what gays do on their own does not affect the rest of us. But now you are changing the dynamic and forcing the rest us to deal with someone's fucked up gender confusion issues literally right where we shit. I think they have pushed too far and will actually hurt their cause when the inevitable backlash happens.
On the one hand - I can understand some confused tranny would like to shit, shower and shave in the bathroom corresponding to where he/she/it thinks he/she/it most fits in based on how they feel.
However, on the other hand - I can also understand that the actual people with actual genitalia that correspond to the bath/shower room might be equally uncomfortable having someone of the opposite genitalia showering in the locker room that doesn't match.
I personally couldn't give a shit (no pun intended) if some chick who thought she was a boy wanted to shower next to me. Whatever. But I would not have wanted my daughter to have to shower next to some tranny boy prancing around in the girl's shower room in elementary school after PE.
There comes a point where the forced accommodation of the few seriously impacts the rights and privacy of the many. Should we ignore it? No. We should attempt an accommodation where feasible that protects the rights and privacy of both parties. But there also comes a point where the accommodation goes overboard. I don't think we can, nor should, please ALL the people ALL the time. Where it makes sense, have a gender neutral BR or shower that ensures privacy. And if existing facilities don't allow that, then find temp accommodations for the trannyboy - like when a school offered to let him/her/it use the faculty BR. And then upgrade facilities over time. But I think it is wrong to force already cash strapped municipalities to rush to build all new tranny bathrooms and showers in every city in the land just to accommodate a few confused caitlyns.
But the confused caitlyns don't want that. They are forcing the issue down the state's throats because they think they have political momentum on their side. Well they don't and I think they are going to rue the day when the T part of the LGBT movement over-reached.
