The serious transgender bathroom issue discussion

Bent Sailor

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Persecuted old white guy?  Hardly - it's a pragmatic reflection of how many interpret today's social norms.
It is your belief that it's a "pragmatic reflection" rather than "imagined victimhood" that makes you the persecuted white guy in all this. And for the record, I didn't take you as one of those either until your remarks here.

I do indeed understand the difference, and I do understand that if a he said/she said situation comes up, that the "she said" will always win, and that someone who wants to be vindictive will usually have no compunction about employing whatever they feel that they can to achieve that vindication.
Wrong. "She said" does not always win. Watched it unfold with a close friend of mine. They took his side (he was the boss), the police (correctly) stated that he said/she said is not enough to get a conviction, it destroyed her and (due to the trauma) her marriage. This is the first time you've gone so far as to warrant this, but if you are going to seriously argue "she said" will always win - go fuck yourself, Chesapeake. You're wrong. Abominably so.

As it pertains to teachers/students?  It's not a gender thing but if the "student said" - that accusation, baseless or not is ruinous to a career.  It's simple to avoid - by making sure that there's always someone else there. 
As it pertains to teachers/students (or more accurately - children and adults in a position of trust) - you are correct. The accusation can be ruinous to a career, even when absolved. Doesn't always happen, my father was accused and the investigation cleared him, but it happens often enough that CYA policies around children is worth it. Pence is not in that situation. This is a red herring.

 

Raz'r

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I think that discrimination against any group has nothing at all to do with the existence of discrimination against any other group.   

You seem to think that conservative white males are immune from discrimination.  It's there, but, it's different - very few reasonable people would suggest that white males are handicapped by virtue of being a white male when it comes to employment considerations, for example.  When  you hear about a case of racial/sexual/gender discrimination, I'd bet you a dollar to a donut that *your* first thought is that the offender is a white guy.  That's discriminatory, Flash, and plays out in the way you think about and deal with anyone whom you suspect you can pigeonhole into a perspective different than your own.  

Please - continue citing stats instead of providing your own thoughts on a topic, it's gotta be easier than thinking, and besides, if you look a little, I'm certain that you can find a statistic or quote that will support whatever point you want to make much more succinctly than your own thoughts could express. 
I discriminate all the time. 
When I was dating, I was partial to petite brunettes. Both of my wives were/are petite red/brunettes. only ever dated 1 blonde. 

Discrimination against blondes, transgender, old, young?  Yep, I'm guilty.

As to who commits sexual harassment - well, if the shoe fits.

 

FillYourBoots

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You guys are soo afraid you might be turned on by a person only to find out the person has a penis.

that scares the shit out of you

you are sooooo frightened!!

admit it!!

you are all closet queers!!
Yeah right. Imagine being a teenager today and dating. Small talk is "Do you have a penis?'

 

Raz'r

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Yeah right. Imagine being a teenager today and dating. Small talk is "Do you have a penis?'
How’s is that different than 25 years ago? I met a “gal” at a bar. At least she told me she was a pre-op TV before it went all Crying Game.  Hell, there was a movie about it!

 

FillYourBoots

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How’s is that different than 25 years ago? I met a “gal” at a bar. At least she told me she was a pre-op TV before it went all Crying Game.  Hell, there was a movie about it!
We've all read your stories of conquest here Mitch. You reckon you're quite the stud hey.

 

3to1

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Americans are so fucking precious about toilets FFS.  What is it about someone taking a piss or a dump they are hung-up about?

A couple of times and concerts the gender lines get blurred at toilets.  Usually the women start using the cubicles in the men's when their que gets too long.  No problems are encountered.

Oh don't tell me they are scared that the trans-gender person will ask them for a head--job!  NTTAWWT.
a greasy turd isn't god-like.

 
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Sol Rosenberg

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Bent Sailor

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Seemed the right thread for this:

Massachusetts affirms transgender protections

In the first statewide referendum on transgender rights, Massachusetts voters on Tuesday beat back a repeal attempt and reaffirmed a 2016 law extending nondiscrimination protections to transgender people, including their use of public bathrooms and locker rooms, the AP reports.i

Guess the people aren't flocking to support the conservative view on this one either.

 

Sol Rosenberg

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Seemed the right thread for this:

Massachusetts affirms transgender protections

In the first statewide referendum on transgender rights, Massachusetts voters on Tuesday beat back a repeal attempt and reaffirmed a 2016 law extending nondiscrimination protections to transgender people, including their use of public bathrooms and locker rooms, the AP reports.i

Guess the people aren't flocking to support the conservative view on this one either.
It may be the GOP view but that is not conservative anymore. 

 

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