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jcmelino

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well it appears that US Ailing has exercised its independent authority and appointed the investigation body. It includes no one from the local YRA or any local persons who make local policy.

 

valis

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well it appears that US Ailing has exercised its independent authority and appointed the investigation body. It includes no one from the local YRA or any local persons who make local policy.
But it does include sailors who have extensive experience in the San Francisco area. I know some of them and these are quality people. I highly doubt that they will do their job in a vacuum.

 

NoStrings

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well it appears that US Ailing has exercised its independent authority and appointed the investigation body. It includes no one from the local YRA or any local persons who make local policy.
But it does include sailors who have extensive experience in the San Francisco area. I know some of them and these are quality people. I highly doubt that they will do their job in a vacuum.
Geez, Sally Honey, John Craig, Kent Benedict, Chuck Hawley, and Bartz Schneider aren't local? You can't very well have the YRA/ORYA investigating their own race. There would be COI issues, and we're not looking to drink our own bathwater. We welcome an outside view of how we're doing things and look forward to seeing how their recommendations correlate with some of our own initiatives.

 

K38BOB

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well it appears that US Ailing has exercised its independent authority and appointed the investigation body. It includes no one from the local YRA or any local persons who make local policy.
But it does include sailors who have extensive experience in the San Francisco area. I know some of them and these are quality people. I highly doubt that they will do their job in a vacuum.
Geez, Sally Honey, John Craig, Kent Benedict, Chuck Hawley, and Bartz Schneider aren't local? You can't very well have the YRA/ORYA investigating their own race. There would be COI issues, and we're not looking to drink our own bathwater. We welcome an outside view of how we're doing things and look forward to seeing how their recommendations correlate with some of our own initiatives.
Agreed. One of them even spoke at a recent Farallones race (challenge?) skippers meeting.

 

Dixie

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What did he cover at the DH Farallones skippers meeting, out of curiosity? I thought it was AC stuff, unrelated to the race, but that was only hearsay and you know where that gets ya.
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EDIT: Never mind, found it:

EVENTS



Skippers' meeting, Wednesday March 28, 2012 7:30 p.m. at the Oakland Yacht Club. All skippers are requested to attend. Any changes in starting procedures, course limits, division placement, etc., will be announced at this meeting. Each skipper is responsible for acquiring information of such changes. Participation mementos for skipper and crew will be available at the Skipper’s meeting and Trophy presentation.

Agenda:

Doors open at 5:30 pm OYC

Final Race Entries, GPS Download / replay assistance from BAMA

7:30 pm John Craig speaks on AC venue

Next, Lt. Cmndr DesaRae Janszen speaks on AC Venue, Offshore Risks, What to expect if you need help - comments by one of the survivors who had a basket ride.

Skippers Meeting - changes in SI, Fleet assignments, Q&A

 
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K38BOB

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What did he cover at the DH Farallones skippers meeting, out of curiosity? I thought it was AC stuff, unrelated to the race, but that was only hearsay and you know where that gets ya.
rolleyes.gif


EDIT: Never mind, found it:

EVENTS



Skippers' meeting, Wednesday March 28, 2012 7:30 p.m. at the Oakland Yacht Club. All skippers are requested to attend. Any changes in starting procedures, course limits, division placement, etc., will be announced at this meeting. Each skipper is responsible for acquiring information of such changes. Participation mementos for skipper and crew will be available at the Skipper's meeting and Trophy presentation.



Agenda:

Doors open at 5:30 pm OYC

Final Race Entries, GPS Download / replay assistance from BAMA

7:30 pm John Craig speaks on AC venue

Next, Lt. Cmndr DesaRae Janszen speaks on AC Venue, Offshore Risks, What to expect if you need help - comments by one of the survivors who had a basket ride.



Skippers Meeting - changes in SI, Fleet assignments, Q&A
Might be better in the other thread? It was relevant for non AC reasons too

 

Dixie

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But it does include sailors who have extensive experience in the San Francisco area. I know some of them and these are quality people. I highly doubt that they will do their job in a vacuum.
Geez, Sally Honey, John Craig, Kent Benedict, Chuck Hawley, and Bartz Schneider aren't local? You can't very well have the YRA/ORYA investigating their own race. There would be COI issues, and we're not looking to drink our own bathwater. We welcome an outside view of how we're doing things and look forward to seeing how their recommendations correlate with some of our own initiatives.
Agreed. One of them even spoke at a recent Farallones race (challenge?) skippers meeting.
I thought hmm, I think JC spoke and what on? As it wasn't mentioned in your post...I said....

What did he cover at the DH Farallones skippers meeting, out of curiosity? I thought it was AC stuff, unrelated to the race, but that was only hearsay and you know where that gets ya.

EDIT: Never mind, found it:

EVENTS



Skippers' meeting, Wednesday March 28, 2012 7:30 p.m. at the Oakland Yacht Club. All skippers are requested to attend. Any changes in starting procedures, course limits, division placement, etc., will be announced at this meeting. Each skipper is responsible for acquiring information of such changes. Participation mementos for skipper and crew will be available at the Skipper's meeting and Trophy presentation.



Agenda:

Doors open at 5:30 pm OYC

Final Race Entries, GPS Download / replay assistance from BAMA

7:30 pm John Craig speaks on AC venue

Next, Lt. Cmndr DesaRae Janszen speaks on AC Venue, Offshore Risks, What to expect if you need help - comments by one of the survivors who had a basket ride.



Skippers Meeting - changes in SI, Fleet assignments, Q&A
Might be better in the other thread? It was relevant for non AC reasons too
Yes, feel free - it was something you'd brought to light here and made me wonder, especially given the late hour of the meeting, which I understand was done to accomodate the distance for some skippers. Thanks Bob.

 
Does anyone have a link to the full article written by Bryan? I've been on vacation and now can't find it in the archives or via Google... The first entry in this story links back to SA Page one...

Read some excepts that ya'll have quoted from and would like to now read the full version.

Thanks in advance...

jT

 

mbfarrel

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Does anyone have a link to the full article written by Bryan? I've been on vacation and now can't find it in the archives or via Google... The first entry in this story links back to SA Page one...

Read some excepts that ya'll have quoted from and would like to now read the full version.

Thanks in advance...

jT
Here's the LINK

 

some dude

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Bryan, my heart goes to you and now in light of the lawsuit you are facing I wish to extend my support to you. Although I can't even start to understand what the loss of your own child will do to a parent I find the lawsuit despicable. We are all adults and when we get on a boat we all know the risk we are taking. Each of us when jump over the that safety/land line understands that it is more than just a symbolic gesture, and now we place ourselves at the mercy of the environment. I am not condoning poor seamanship or poor safety practices, as boat owners most us take it very seriously, but we all take risks when we jump over the line and we are (or should be) all responsible for assessing these risk and decide what to do. I can't offer you much on monetary support but I would love to help in any way I can. My heart and prayers go to you, your crew and all the families that are involved in this tragedy. I hope that we can all help you to go through this new twisted turn in your path.
He's not being sued

 

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