The Third Booster Shot Debate - Are U going to get the booster?

Marty Gingras

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The PCR test can measure a single molecule depending on how many replication cycles you use. Even then it only identifies a portion of the viral genome that is supposedly unique to a particular virus.
Are you suggesting that the results of PCR testing have been somehow harmfully misinterpreted? If so, please describe how. And yes, I'm thinking you are making a political decision about what sort of error to commit.
 

Chief Stipe

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Are you suggesting that the results of PCR testing have been somehow harmfully misinterpreted?
Yes. Kary Mullis the inventor of the PCR test was emphatic that they were being misused. Well before Covid-19 as he was deceased before Covid-19 was "discovered".

To draw an analogy if you have a zero alcohol tolerance for driving and the technology for detection of alcohol in a blood test becomes more accurate to the point where you can detect a single molecule - should the driver be charged? Even though that single molecule of alcohol has zero effect on their driving capability. What's more it could be just environmental contamination e.g. they got it from eating fermented cabbage.
 

00seven

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I've had the 3 shots. First one made a bit miserable, second one I was crook, shocking headache and joint pain. After the 3rd I had my first day off work sick since I was hospitalised with Dengue in 2008.

I won't be having anymore.
 

Steam Flyer

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Yes. Kary Mullis the inventor of the PCR test was emphatic that they were being misused. Well before Covid-19 as he was deceased before Covid-19 was "discovered".
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Which kind of makes it irrelevant to COVID, doesn't it?

Your analogy to a sobriety test is completely false; and your assumption that a PCR test finding the presence of a virus is somehow detecting random molecules instead of virus is just false. Stupidly so.

Taking one sentence out of context is not a substitute for actually understanding a little science.
 

Marty Gingras

Mid-range Anarchist
Are you suggesting that the results of PCR testing have been somehow harmfully misinterpreted? If so, please describe how. And yes, I'm thinking you are making a political decision about what sort of error to commit.

Yes. Kary Mullis the inventor of the PCR test was emphatic that they were being misused. Well before Covid-19 as he was deceased before Covid-19 was "discovered".

To draw an analogy if you have a zero alcohol tolerance for driving and the technology for detection of alcohol in a blood test becomes more accurate to the point where you can detect a single molecule - should the driver be charged? Even though that single molecule of alcohol has zero effect on their driving capability. What's more it could be just environmental contamination e.g. they got it from eating fermented cabbage.

Oops. You forgot to describe how the results of PCR testing have been somehow harmfully misinterpreted.
 

Chief Stipe

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Your analogy to a sobriety test is completely false; and your assumption that a PCR test finding the presence of a virus is somehow detecting random molecules instead of virus is just false. Stupidly so.
It's not false it is a similar analogy to the one Kary Mullis the inventor of the test used to describe its misuse.
 

Marty Gingras

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Isn't that obvious? The way PCR testing has been misused has lead to draconian action ane intervention not based on infection, infectiousness nor disease.
Thanks. Setting aside whetever evidence there is about alternative approaches to managing the global pandemic, that's exactly the political decision/judgment about what sort of error to commit that I figured interested you.
 

Steam Flyer

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It's obvious. Someone with your self professed science expertise would see it straight away.
No, it isn't. What you see as "obvious" is multi-billion-dollar ad campaign trying to sell you on being a mindless rightwing dumbass. You're apparently sold already.

Data, my boy. Get the data. Compare the stats on South Korea, for example, with an early and almost universal testing program.
 

Chief Stipe

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No, it isn't. What you see as "obvious" is multi-billion-dollar ad campaign trying to sell you on being a mindless rightwing dumbass. You're apparently sold already.
WTF are you on about?

Are you referring to the Pzifer campaign? The one that made them 78 billion and a record profit?

What's cherry picking South Korea got to do with anything? Isn't the UK data good enough?

Or perhaps Denmark which had one of the highest testing rates in the World. Their death rate is no different to many comparable populations.
 
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Steam Flyer

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WTF are you on about?

Are you referring to the Pzifer campaign? The one that made them 78 billion and a record profit?

What's cherry picking South Korea got to do with anything? Isn't the UK data good enough?

Or perhaps Denmark which had one of the highest testing rates in the World. Their death rate is no different to many comparable populations.

Really? Their death rate is 1 per 848 people, ours in 1 per 309. They are doing better than twice as well as the USA.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm thinking you are truly full of shit. Is there some other explanation for your consistent failure to accept actual facts?
 

Chief Stipe

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Really? Their death rate is 1 per 848 people, ours in 1 per 309. They are doing better than twice as well as the USA.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm thinking you are truly full of shit. Is there some other explanation for your consistent failure to accept actual facts?
I was discussing the misuse of the PCR test. You've gone off on a tangent.

While you are on Worldometers.info (not exactly the most relaible source of data) why don't you look at the relationship between tests vs cases vs deaths.
 

Marinatrix447

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As one of the World’s most infamous granny’s just left this mortal coil [yesterday in fact] pre the winter of EU/UK/USA freezing discontent… twill make the looming over 50s death-toll seem more palatable.

It makes sense too that the NEW bivalent Pfizer Omicron booster was authorised based on data from just eight mice. Such is the emergency. If they'd waited any longer, everyone was in danger of waking up.



Yet even those eight mice all still all got Covid?

I guess some dumbfux will simply never smell the rat, till on deathbeds, but even then will quip “it would have been much worse without the vaccine…”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/2022-excess-deaths-all-around-the-world-raise-an-alarm_4720697.html

As you were
 
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