Marty Gingras
Mid-range Anarchist
Remind me, why do 'they' want to time-delay kill us?
The Third Booster Shot Debate - Are U going to get the booster?
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Steam Flyer
Sophisticated Yet Humble
No, you were saying that the test -only- tells if a person has the virus, not the disease; you skirted heavily around the question of whether a person with "just the virus" can spread it (which is settled science. Yes they can) and whether it assists in pushing down the rate of infection and the death rate.
You gave an example that was proven not just wrong but stupidly wrong.
No wonder you want to change your answer and attack the cite. Facts are really not on your side but you're not going to change your mind.
Chief Stipe
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It's not "settled science". Yes a percentage of asymptomatic infected persons can pass on the virus. But only if they shed the virus and at a high viral load.
The PCR test at a high cycle rate doesn't tell you anything about the infectiousness of a person.
Steam Flyer
Sophisticated Yet Humble
And yet, countries that do more testing seem to have much better public health statistics... more than twice as good as the USA... than we do.
In other words, "Yes a percentage of asymptomatic infected persons can pass on the virus. But only if they shed the virus and at a high viral load." is a way of repeating what I just said but still insisting I was wrong? In other words, yes it is settled science.
BTW if you are infected with the virus, you will shed the virus. Different viruses have different dosage to be contagious. COVID is rather low. Measles is very very low, it's a very easily spread disease. A PCR test will indicate that you have the virus, and if you give a shit about other people (obviously not the case for trumpalos) then this gives you the opportunity to NOT spread it to others.
jerseyguy
Super Anarchist
A truly reputable source.
The Epoch Times is a far-right[1] international multi-language newspaper and media company affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement
One of my unreliable sources as you put it is Dr. Robert Malone, just one of the hundreds of researchers involved in the development of mRNA vaccines. The most decent studies we have are the result of the trials that have come out of the use of the mRNA vaccines, 'after' the population of the world has been given the vaccines, not before their use. The population of the world were and still are, the test rats for big pharma.
I did not know resisting the CCP was considered a far-right thing.
Doses administrated is not a trial, it is just doses administrated.
Marty Gingras
Mid-range Anarchist
It's called a 'natural experiment'. Lots of good data. Better in many regards than a trial with radically smaller scope.
Marty Gingras
Mid-range Anarchist
Wait, Malone says he is the inventor of mRNA tech. What are we now to believe about his reliability?
The Vaccine Scientist Spreading Vaccine Misinformation
Robert Malone claims to have invented mRNA technology. Why is he trying so hard to undermine its use?
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Reminds me of stories of Japanese medical experiments done on POWs during WW11. After that war American medical teams found the evidence and records of the experiments, and apparently helped advance medicine in certain areas medically in the U.S., where those types of experiments were forbidden.
Malone did not say he was the inventor. A somewhat fake article in Wikipedia said he did.Wait, Malone says he is the inventor of mRNA tech. What are we now to believe about his reliability?
The Vaccine Scientist Spreading Vaccine Misinformation
Robert Malone claims to have invented mRNA technology. Why is he trying so hard to undermine its use?
Marty Gingras
Mid-range Anarchist
Marty Gingras
Mid-range Anarchist
Prove it. Start with the article that I linked to instead of Wikipedia.
Steam Flyer
Sophisticated Yet Humble
Just because it is inconvenient to your preconceived conclusions to consider the huge number of vaccines administered over the past 20 months, worldwide, as a "trial" that doesn't mean actual doctors and scientists and other people with functioning brains need to discard the real-world results.
The COVID vaccines are a huge success. Sorry if that rains on your RWNJ parade... actually, no I'm not sorry. I hope it convinces you to change your mind, or at least shut the fuck up, but hopes are slim.
Linking to an article in a left rag known for misinformation is not proof. How about the actual quote of the scientist that made the statement that can be contacted for verification.
I cracked up after seeing your favorite saying is "Sophisticated Yet Humble".
Marty Gingras
Mid-range Anarchist
Skeptical. I like it. Let's see the quote.
EYESAILOR
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I agree with this. He is a discredited bitter old man who gets away with his BS because he looks like Santa Klaus.
He was among the earlier researchers of mRNA but fell out with colleagues because he felt he wasnt getting enough recognition.He backed another horse. When mRNA started to show real promise , he spent years trying to get credit as the father of mRNA (he wasnt the first to research mRNA nor did he make all the breakthroughs), then changed course again and found a profitable niche as a media figure speaking out against mRNA. For someone who used to be a genuine scientist, he now appears on you tube talk shows speaking utter nonsense.
As you rightly point out, unreliable and 35 years out of date.
Chief Stipe
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"A huge success" is not exactly a quantifiable scientific term.
Can you provide some data please?
