The Third Booster Shot Debate - Are U going to get the booster?

EYESAILOR

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members of the un-vaxxed FD were more likely to do things like be indoors w/o masks with large groups of like-minded others. socialists planning a fund raiser for Bernie Sanders.
Tsk.....dont miss out the opportunity to politicize spurious speculative comments. Otherwsie we risk the discussion descending into a bipartisan objective discussion of public health.
 

JiffyLube

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You are correct SD Fire and Rescue ended up not mandating the covid vaccine.

It is however a good example of why emergency services and the military are entitled to require vaccines if they choose. In January of this year 131 of the 960 San Diego firefighters were out with Covid. The fire chief had to announce a "brown out" of essential services , including suspending seven engines and three specialty services. It was fortunate you didnt have a bomb scare in San Diego earlier this year because you didnt have a bomb squad....they were out sick with covid.

In hippy, left wing California they let the fire department choose whether to get vaccinated . In my town, we didnt fuck around, the staunchily Republican Fire Chief mandated vaccines for all his crews and we did not have a single engine out for the duration of the pandemic.

(Do you see what I did there? I took the facts and politicized them by twisting unrelated facts into an implied causal relationship. Y'all, on both sides of the political spectrum, been doing this throughout the pandemic and it does NOT help.)
Actually, what you said in the hippy paragraph made me scratch my head, because in my experience with party affiliations it would be switched. Freedom to choose.
 

00seven

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EYESAILOR

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Actually, what you said in the hippy paragraph made me scratch my head, because in my experience with party affiliations it would be switched. Freedom to choose.
I know! The politicization of public health has a lot of us scratching our heads.

I expect sometimes it is difficult to remember what side you are on.
 
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Steam Flyer

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I know! The politicization of public health has a lot of us scratching our heads.

I expect sometimes it is difficult to remember what side you are on.

That's the nice about science. It does change as more knowledge is gained, but generally for consistent and rational reasons.
 

EYESAILOR

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That's the nice about science. It does change as more knowledge is gained, but generally for consistent and rational reasons.
"Science doesn't change. It is our understanding of science that changes."

Science can appear utterly irrational which is why it is often so difficult to understand.

Most of all: Political Science is an oxymoron. The two mix very poorly.
 

Raz'r

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Bivalent booster yesterday, combined with the flu shot (opposite arm)
A little soreness. That's it. Much better than the last booster where I had the fever/chills thing.
 

d'ranger

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Since science was mentioned here is a good article on what science people do https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...-youre-a-superdodger?utm_source=pocket-newtab

It's an interesting read starting with researching why some never got HIV even after being exposed, and the search for discovering why some people never get (or have symptoms) from Covid. Warning: the latter is still ongoing so don't read if you like your science simple and settled.
 
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I got two jabs and survived. Two of my friends didn't survive their jabs The system is trying hard to bury what happened. My friends are already buried. One was a voluntary and one mandated. I should have known better and I"ll never ever succumb to a Govt. edict. This has been a social engineering compliance experiment & Fauci and Co.must have known when they authorised an experimental drug for worldwide use
 

EYESAILOR

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Science is not knowledge, it is the tool (or discipline) which is used by scientists to discover knowledge.
"Science is the theoretical (and testable) explanation of natural phenomena and the universe."

Observation, knowledge and study are components of science .
We observed the apples fell down to the ground rather than floated.
We observed that different objects of different weights dropped from the same height arrived at the ground at the same time.
We knew this a thousand years ago. We did not know why.
Newton came along with a scientific explanation called gravity.

Scientific explanations are generally but not always subject to the following hurdles:
  • Objective observation: Measurement and data (possibly although not necessarily using mathematics as a tool)
  • Evidence
  • Experiment and/or observation as benchmarks for testing hypotheses
  • Induction: reasoning to establish general rules or conclusions drawn from facts or examples
  • Repetition
  • Critical analysis
  • Verification and testing: critical exposure to scrutiny, peer review and assessment
Generally but not always, because breakthrough in physics are sometimes purely mathematical and it can be a decade or more before an experiment can be devised to test the hypothesis.
 

Steam Flyer

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I got two jabs and survived. Two of my friends didn't survive their jabs The system is trying hard to bury what happened. My friends are already buried. One was a voluntary and one mandated. I should have known better and I"ll never ever succumb to a Govt. edict. This has been a social engineering compliance experiment & Fauci and Co.must have known when they authorised an experimental drug for worldwide use

Pro Tip: if you hear a "click" as the "nurse" gets ready to give you your jab and they hold it up to your head instead of your arm, GET OUT OF THERE!!!
 

Marty Gingras

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I got two jabs and survived. Two of my friends didn't survive their jabs The system is trying hard to bury what happened. My friends are already buried. One was a voluntary and one mandated. I should have known better and I"ll never ever succumb to a Govt. edict. This has been a social engineering compliance experiment & Fauci and Co.must have known when they authorised an experimental drug for worldwide use
Condolences. Any sense for what comorbitities of your friends had?
 

Raz'r

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I got two jabs and survived. Two of my friends didn't survive their jabs The system is trying hard to bury what happened. My friends are already buried. One was a voluntary and one mandated. I should have known better and I"ll never ever succumb to a Govt. edict. This has been a social engineering compliance experiment & Fauci and Co.must have known when they authorised an experimental drug for worldwide use
The odds are astronomical that you would know 2 people who died due to complications from the vaccine. Not impossible, but you should buy a lottery ticket.

I did get the 5th jab. And I will die. Of that there's no doubt.
 

accnick

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The odds are astronomical that you would know 2 people who died due to complications from the vaccine. Not impossible, but you should buy a lottery ticket.

I did get the 5th jab. And I will die. Of that there's no doubt.
Timing is everything. I got the 5th jab, and the clock is ticking.
 

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