slug zitski
Super Anarchist
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Christina Pushaw
Press Secretary at EOG
EOGThe Johns Hopkins University - Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS)
Tallahassee, Florida, United States248 connections
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How about a link to the entire statement, so we can get the whole picture?Christina Pushaw
Press Secretary at EOG
EOGThe Johns Hopkins University - Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS)
Tallahassee, Florida, United States248 connections
More than half of the sick folks were vaccinatedHow about a link to the entire statement, so we can get the whole picture?
In FL, the governor has been urging everyone and his dog with any coronavirus symptoms to get the “free” monoclonal antibody treatment as soon as the have a sniffle or test positive.
It’s a shame he won’t put the same effort into pushing for vaccinations.
Each treatment cost the taxpayers about $6500, vs less than $50 for a vaccination.
Both are “free” to the consumer.
OK lets run with this for a moment.They voted against recommending approval for a broad Pfizer booster shot on the basis that there was not enough data yet to justify giving a booster to the general population.
This is a very confused rant and barely worth responding to.OK lets run with this for a moment.
Months ago now Biden was out announcing a government program of covid vaccine boosters for all (over 16). Even mandating covid vaccines and vaccine passports. Still is.. But "not enough data" you say? Even before the data was sent to FDA Biden announced his plan and political lap dog Fauci was right there barking up the same tree and still is.
ALL WITHOUT DATA!
FDA Directors of the vaccine program RESIGNED over this. The expert panel voted overwhelmingly AGAINST the Biden/Fauci plan (over lack of data you say).
* So tell me again why anyone who can fog a mirror would trust anything Biden and Fauci say?
* What does it take for you needle pushers to admit you were wrong?
I have to laugh when you can't figure out why there is vaccine hesitancy. Uh DUH... because you are a bunch of lying sacks of shit and eventually truths makes it way out.
All looks yellow to a jaundiced eyeHoly intellectual dishonesty batman!! Speaks volumes of your true intent.
So, guess what?More than half of the sick folks were vaccinated
Is this clear ?
#TrumphausenbyProxySo, guess what?
Christina Pushaw, source of that "statistic", is the Press Secretary for Florida governor Ron DeSantis. DeSantis is pushing monoclonal antibody treatments rather than vaccinations, as he has serious presidential ambitions, and doesn't want to be seen as actively promoting vaccinations, since half or more of the Republican base is anti-vax.
While the vaccines are very effective at keeping people out of the hospital and dying, they do not prevent all infections
Here is who is eligible for treatment in Florida right now (this is from the Florida Department of Health website today):
"Monoclonal antibody treatments can be prescribed by health care providers to individuals 12 years of age and older who have been diagnosed with COVID-19 and who have been exposed to someone with COVID-19 and are at high risk for severe illness and hospitalization.
However, to support Governor DeSantis’ initiative, there is currently a standing order in Florida signed by the State Surgeon General that allows patients to receive this treatment without a prescription or referral if administered by an eligible health care provider. Such referrals are not required at any of the State of Florida monoclonal antibody treatment sites and treatments are available at no cost to patients."
In other words, right now in FL you can walk in and get a "free" monoclonal antibody treatment at any official treatment site, whether or not you have COVID, just by saying you may have been exposed and you want the treatment. No questions asked.
Florida has been using a highly disproportionate amount of the monoclonal antibody treatments available in the US, in large part because DeSantis wants to be seen as the savior of the state's vulnerable. He won't push cheap vaccinations that have full FDA approval, but will push an expensive treatment that is not fully-approved as long as it is paid for by the federal government.
It is a cynical political ploy.
Florida has been using so much of the available supply that the CDC is taking over the distribution, rather than allowing the states to go straight to the manufacturer. The CDC will allocate the amount to each state based on current infection rates and the ability to utilize the treatment supply.
Of course, DeSantis is (as are other Florida politicians) screaming that it is Joe Biden out to punish Florida for voting for DeSantis and Trump, and is trying to make DeSantis look bad.
I wonder whose behavior DeSantis is modeling?
No, vaccine hesitancy today is the same as vaccine hesitancy from 20 years ago. Someone “publishes” some bullshit, and the folks who desperately want to not make a decision, grab it and go. It just spreads much faster now due to social.Oh I agree; science will not stop politics. Biden has proven that beyond any shadow of a doubt.
See that’s the thing. For all the crap thrown at the last administration - much of it deserved - this one is far far worse and frankly far more deceitful about it. Anyone would be a fool to listen to or trust a politician or anyone affiliated with one. Alas now a days everyone including the medical community is aligned with a political POV and wedded to its agenda. Truth or science doesn’t really matter. And that my friend is why you have vaccine hesitancy.
BullshitterHoly intellectual dishonesty batman!! Speaks volumes of your true intent.
Florida has the same vaccination rate as the rest of the USSo, guess what?
Christina Pushaw, source of that "statistic", is the Press Secretary for Florida governor Ron DeSantis. DeSantis is pushing monoclonal antibody treatments rather than vaccinations, as he has serious presidential ambitions, and doesn't want to be seen as actively promoting vaccinations, since half or more of the Republican base is anti-vax.
While the vaccines are very effective at keeping people out of the hospital and dying, they do not prevent all infections
Here is who is eligible for treatment in Florida right now (this is from the Florida Department of Health website today):
"Monoclonal antibody treatments can be prescribed by health care providers to individuals 12 years of age and older who have been diagnosed with COVID-19 and who have been exposed to someone with COVID-19 and are at high risk for severe illness and hospitalization.
However, to support Governor DeSantis’ initiative, there is currently a standing order in Florida signed by the State Surgeon General that allows patients to receive this treatment without a prescription or referral if administered by an eligible health care provider. Such referrals are not required at any of the State of Florida monoclonal antibody treatment sites and treatments are available at no cost to patients."
In other words, right now in FL you can walk in and get a "free" monoclonal antibody treatment at any official treatment site, whether or not you have COVID, just by saying you may have been exposed and you want the treatment. No questions asked.
Florida has been using a highly disproportionate amount of the monoclonal antibody treatments available in the US, in large part because DeSantis wants to be seen as the savior of the state's vulnerable. He won't push cheap vaccinations that have full FDA approval, but will push an expensive treatment that is not fully-approved as long as it is paid for by the federal government.
It is a cynical political ploy.
Florida has been using so much of the available supply that the CDC is taking over the distribution, rather than allowing the states to go straight to the manufacturer. The CDC will allocate the amount to each state based on current infection rates and the ability to utilize the treatment supply.
Of course, DeSantis is (as are other Florida politicians) screaming that it is Joe Biden out to punish Florida for voting for DeSantis and Trump, and is trying to make DeSantis look bad.
I wonder whose behavior DeSantis is modeling?
That's a fucking lie.Florida has the same vaccination rate as the rest of the US
It’s considered traditional (and polite) when splitting hairs in public to at least hint at which hairs you might be splitting.Florida has the same vaccination rate as the rest of the US
Because it isn't true.Red states have much higher covid deaths.
Why is that, bullshitter?
In fairness to Slug, as of yesterday, 66% of FL residents had received at least a first dose, and 50.4% are fully vaccinated.That's a fucking lie.
There are places in the US that are approaching 90%, and smaller places above that.
Red states are below the average... Florida included.
Red states have much higher covid deaths.
Why is that, bullshitter?
- DSK
No, there is a lot of evidence that he's not stupid at all. Which makes his fucking over the people of the state worse.In fairness to Slug, as of yesterday, 66% of FL residents had received at least a first dose, and 50.4% are fully vaccinated.
Across all states, the average is 63.5% with at least the first dose, and 54.2% fully vaccinated.
Therefore, Florida is slightly below the US average when it come to the percentage of population that is fully vaccinated.
On a state-by-state basis, FL rates about 20th out of 50. Some southern states have truly dismal numbers.
Florida did well out of the box, as DeSantis prioritized those over 65, which is both a good chunk of the population and a reliable voting bloc.
He’s nobody’s fool, even if he acts like one.
?? WTF has Sweden got to do with it? Did many people in Sweden vote for Trump?Sweden by the same measure has done better than 40 USA States regardless of their political control.
From https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/us-coronavirus-deaths-by-state-july-1.htmlBecause it isn't true.
Deaths per Million Top 10 States have no relationship to Political Party. So it is a pointless comparison.
Mississippi Red
New Jersey Blue
Louisiana Blue/Red
New York Blue
Alabama Red
Arizona Blue/Red
Massachusetts Blue
Rhode Island Blue
Arkansas Red
South Dakota Red
I don't know why you insist on turning the pandemic in to a polidemic but the figures you quoted (or rather the publication you quoted) is wrong. It doesn't account for age distribution or seasonality or any other factor that affects the virus. It is a seven day snapshot.Florida
Deaths per 100,000: 1.69
Daily average deaths: 362.6