The Voice. An Australian referendum

[LB 15]

This.

What did the moron cut and paste now?

 

[Ease the sheet.]

Yes you would pigeonhole anyone who doesn’t toe the woke party line over this nonsense as being a Trumptard. I don’t recall him campaigning for the no vote but I don’t watch the ABC or read the Guardian. It is nothing but token decisive racist bullshit, designed by the Greens and the ALP to distract from their lack of any actual action to improve the lives of indigenous people.

Good morning!

 

[The Dark Knight]

The utter ignorance of those arguing for the negative is astounding. Or would have been if I hadn't seen the rise of Tony, Clive, Trump, anti vaxxers, sovereign citizens, and the rest of the fuckwits with my own eyes.

It’s the lack of leadership and a clear message from Albo that is causing the confusion and the preference of the negative.

The biggest fuckwit here, as always is you.

 

[The Dark Knight]

What did the moron cut and paste now?

Nothing of interest, relevance or insight.

So what we saw summed it up.

 

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It’s the lack of leadership and a clear message from Albo that is causing the confusion and the preference of the negative.

The biggest fuckwit here, as always is you.

The fact that you make this about Also just highlights your confusion.

I posted the draft question. Why don't you address it?

 

[Goodvibes]

Yes you would pigeonhole anyone who doesn’t toe the woke party line over this nonsense as being a Trumptard. I don’t recall him campaigning for the no vote but I don’t watch the ABC or read the Guardian. It is nothing but token decisive racist bullshit, designed by the Greens and the ALP to distract from their lack of any actual action to improve the lives of indigenous people.

Hey, LB. I take back my post where I said "I hope the poor cunt is OK.", after that post.

IN the meantime, I have something for you, given that you are still smarting from SCOMO getting booted. I'm sure it helped last time I sent you some.

 

[00seven]

The fact that you make this about Also just highlights your confusion.

I posted the draft question. Why don't you address it?

No, you posted the draft amendments.

 

[The Dark Knight]

The fact that you make this about Also just highlights your confusion.

I posted the draft question. Why don't you address it?

What 007 says

No, you posted the draft amendments.

Moron


Those draft amendments suggest that the whole voice is an utter waste of time and money. They achieve nothing that couldn’t be achieved by a bill in parliament or even just a ministerial decision.

If Albo wants to waste money on a referendum, then he should have proposed a real and meaningful change to the constitution.

It’s about Albo because he is driving it and for much of it he has failed to market it to the Australian people or answer questions in a timely manor.

Albo is a political wheeler and dealer, far from leadership material.

 

[MikeHunt]

There are multiple indigenous bodies and voices advising the Government but that perhaps the reason they feel they need the VoICE is because the advice on what is really needed doesn’t gel with their lefty whitefella ideals and they don’t want to hear it.

It’s not Whitefella voices who are trying to direct Indigenous policy - it’s Blackfella voices and they are being ignored......perhaps the ultimate example of racism really, after all what would they know, we know better, eh?

Here’s an example of who is currently available to the Gov’t to advise them on Indig’ issues and policies:

· Human Rights Committee
· Torres Strait Regional Authority
· Murdi Paaki Regional Assembly
· Prime Minister’s Indigenous Advisory Council
· ACT Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Elected Body
· National Aboriginal Community Controlled Health Organisation
· National Congress of Australia’s First Peoples
· Prescribed Bodies Corporate
· Aboriginal Land Councils (multiple Australia wide)

Within Parliament, we have:

· Senator Dorinda Cox, Western Australia
· Senator Patrick Dodson, Western Australia
· Senator Jacqui Lambie, Tasmania
· Senator Kerrynne Liddle, South Australia
· Senator the Hon Malarndirri McCarthy, Northern Territory
· Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price, Northern Territory
· Senator Jana Stewart, Victoria
· Senator Lidia Thorpe, Victoria
· The Hon Linda Burney MP, Member for Barton
· Dr Gordon Reid, Member for Robertson
· Ms Marion Scrymgour, Member for Lingiari

The reality is that there is an incredible level of frustration within the NT at Albo and NT Chief Minister Fyle's commitment to ignoring the legitimate Indigenous voices in Alice and Darwin - ie Indig elders and community leaders - who are screaming for direct action. It is palpable. They completely ignored everything that was told them on Albo’s flit into the Alice where he didn’t even bother getting out to meet with anyone in the community but met only with a hand-picked group - all of whom he and Fyles have so far ignored anyway.....

 

[Recidivist]

The utter ignorance of those arguing for the negative is astounding. Or would have been if I hadn't seen the rise of Tony, Clive, Trump, anti vaxxers, sovereign citizens, and the rest of the fuckwits with my own eyes.

Emphasis added by me. The bolded bit is plainly misconceived. For example, I am opposed to the proposed Constitutional amendment on several grounds, which I have alluded to in these forums previously. I am not ignorant about any of the arguments (I am a retired constitutional lawyer for starters). I simply hold different views, arising from different life experiences. I would be considered left-leaning politically, and am disappointed that a fellow lefty would use such a broad brush in a matter where it is clear that reasonable people can hold different views.

You can do better than that ETS. Please try.

BTW - I hold the rest of the list in contempt every bit as much as you do.

 

[The Dark Knight]

The reality is that there is an incredible level of frustration within the NT at Albo and NT Chief Minister Fyle's commitment to ignoring the legitimate Indigenous voices in Alice and Darwin - ie Indig elders and community leaders - who are screaming for direct action. It is palpable. They completely ignored everything that was told them on Albo’s flit into the Alice where he didn’t even bother getting out to meet with anyone in the community but met only with a hand-picked group - all of whom he and Fyles have so far ignored anyway.....

Little wonder he did a runner from the NT, Albo is more interested in the perks of being PM than showing leadership. I did not see the leftwing media or our resident LWNJs complaining about giving the Alice some token lip service. If it was a Lib PM………

Tennis Albo giving Alice Springs his undivided attention.

 

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What 007 says


Moron


Those draft amendments suggest that the whole voice is an utter waste of time and money. They achieve nothing that couldn’t be achieved by a bill in parliament or even just a ministerial decision.

If Albo wants to waste money on a referendum, then he should have proposed a real and meaningful change to the constitution.

It’s about Albo because he is driving it and for much of it he has failed to market it to the Australian people or answer questions in a timely manor.

Albo is a political wheeler and dealer, far from leadership material.

So Whitey's telling Darkies what to do has worked out ok for you then?

 

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Emphasis added by me. The bolded bit is plainly misconceived. For example, I am opposed to the proposed Constitutional amendment on several grounds, which I have alluded to in these forums previously. I am not ignorant about any of the arguments (I am a retired constitutional lawyer for starters). I simply hold different views, arising from different life experiences. I would be considered left-leaning politically, and am disappointed that a fellow lefty would use such a broad brush in a matter where it is clear that reasonable people can hold different views.

You can do better than that ETS. Please try.

BTW - I hold the rest of the list in contempt every bit as much as you do.

So you're happy with terra nullius?
And that we don't need to listen to native fauna?

And that the writers of the constitution addressed those issues without need for revision?

 

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What 007 says


Moron


Those draft amendments suggest that the whole voice is an utter waste of time and money. They achieve nothing that couldn’t be achieved by a bill in parliament or even just a ministerial decision.

If Albo wants to waste money on a referendum, then he should have proposed a real and meaningful change to the constitution.

It’s about Albo because he is driving it and for much of it he has failed to market it to the Australian people or answer questions in a timely manor.

Albo is a political wheeler and dealer, far from leadership material.

The question is "do you accept the amendments?


You've been running around like a fuckwits screaming you don't have the information. There it's is in fucking black and white.

You're a liar.

 

[The Dark Knight]

The question is "do you accept the amendments?


You've been running around like a fuckwits screaming you don't have the information. There it's is in fucking black and white.

You're a liar.

For most of the debate so far there has been little detail and as for my thoughts on the amendments, can’t you fucking read?

 

[The Dark Knight]

So Whitey's telling Darkies what to do has worked out ok for you then?

What MH says

There are multiple indigenous bodies and voices advising the Government but that perhaps the reason they feel they need the VoICE is because the advice on what is really needed doesn’t gel with their lefty whitefella ideals and they don’t want to hear it.

It’s not Whitefella voices who are trying to direct Indigenous policy - it’s Blackfella voices and they are being ignored......perhaps the ultimate example of racism really, after all what would they know, we know better, eh?

Here’s an example of who is currently available to the Gov’t to advise them on Indig’ issues and policies:

· Human Rights Committee
· Torres Strait Regional Authority
· Murdi Paaki Regional Assembly
· Prime Minister’s Indigenous Advisory Council
· ACT Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Elected Body
· National Aboriginal Community Controlled Health Organisation
· National Congress of Australia’s First Peoples
· Prescribed Bodies Corporate
· Aboriginal Land Councils (multiple Australia wide)

Within Parliament, we have:

· Senator Dorinda Cox, Western Australia
· Senator Patrick Dodson, Western Australia
· Senator Jacqui Lambie, Tasmania
· Senator Kerrynne Liddle, South Australia
· Senator the Hon Malarndirri McCarthy, Northern Territory
· Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price, Northern Territory
· Senator Jana Stewart, Victoria
· Senator Lidia Thorpe, Victoria
· The Hon Linda Burney MP, Member for Barton
· Dr Gordon Reid, Member for Robertson
· Ms Marion Scrymgour, Member for Lingiari

The reality is that there is an incredible level of frustration within the NT at Albo and NT Chief Minister Fyle's commitment to ignoring the legitimate Indigenous voices in Alice and Darwin - ie Indig elders and community leaders - who are screaming for direct action. It is palpable. They completely ignored everything that was told them on Albo’s flit into the Alice where he didn’t even bother getting out to meet with anyone in the community but met only with a hand-picked group - all of whom he and Fyles have so far ignored anyway.....

 

[The Dark Knight]

Yep, it was a joke. I actually like a bit of what Stan writes, but every time I see him on the box, his spray tan reminds me of the long, long ago Black & White Minstrel Show.

 

[Goodvibes]

The question is "do you accept the amendments?


You've been running around like a fuckwits screaming you don't have the information. There it's is in fucking black and white.

You're a liar.

Of course. Grumpy is a liar.

LB is a RWNJ racist cunt.

Is any of this news?

 

[00seven]

The question is "do you accept the amendments?


You've been running around like a fuckwits screaming you don't have the information. There it's is in fucking black and white.

You're a liar.

No, it is not. You're a liar.

The DRAFT question is....

"Do you support an alteration to the Constitution that establishes an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice?"

 

[Recidivist]

So you're happy with terra nullius?
And that we don't need to listen to native fauna?

And that the writers of the constitution addressed those issues without need for revision?

And just where did any of those propositions come from? Not from me, so please refrain from putting words in my mouth.

Actually, I don't even understand the second proposition - surely you aren't referring to the indigenous people as "native fauna"?? WTF?