The Wall

[Ishmael]

Your selfishness is noted.

i absolutely disagree with those of you who feel the need to exclude others from chasing the American Dream.

i believe our greatest benefit would come from establishing a system where those seeking a new life are registered and  conditionally welcomed. 

I believe we would benefit mist fromma system where we watch over those who come to join us and assist with their acclimation.

i believe we would benefit most from helping those who are working to join our society by lending a hand when they are not quite getting there. 

I believe turning away those who are seeking asylum from their horrible existence is the foulest of selfish acts. 

Allowing a million refugees a year will not cause any of us to miss a meal. 

Selfishness is not an American value 

It seems to be the core belief of Trumpistas.

 

[Gouvernail]

It seems to be the core belief of Trumpistas.

And we  must continuously and vigorously remind our fellow Americans how their selfishness offends our value system. 

 

[Dog]

Your selfishness is noted.

i absolutely disagree with those of you who feel the need to exclude others from chasing the American Dream.

i believe our greatest benefit would come from establishing a system where those seeking a new life are registered and  conditionally welcomed. 

I believe we would benefit mist fromma system where we watch over those who come to join us and assist with their acclimation.

i believe we would benefit most from helping those who are working to join our society by lending a hand when they are not quite getting there. 

I believe turning away those who are seeking asylum from their horrible existence is the foulest of selfish acts. 

Allowing a million refugees a year will not cause any of us to miss a meal. 

Selfishness is not an American value 

A novel idea......A managed system of legal immigration. 

 

[Gouvernail]

A novel idea......A managed system of legal immigration. 

Yup. Reagan tidied up the mess in the 1980s and failed to push through a system to continue forth.

We simply do not have any system at all and the result is over 12,000,000 Residents of our country who are not officially members of the society in which they live. 

The few who come to our borders daily could be easily managed with a simple system but there is WAY more political funding available for asinine emotional bullshit fights. 

We need to fix the system 

 

[Bus Driver]

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/401054-incoming-border-patrol-chief-border-wall-most-certainly-will-assist-securing?jwsource=cl

Watch this excerpt and get back to us.

You can enhance your credibility if you read your own sources . .  

"However, the Government Accountability Office revealed on Monday that the administration has not conducted a full analysis of the costs for the wall."  

 And Provost is just about as credible as Kelly A. Conway - who can't even convince her own husband !!

At least we aren't still pretending Chief Provost was installed by President Obama and/or not a political appointee.  Both of those lies were quickly exposed.

 

[Dog]

Yup. Reagan tidied up the mess in the 1980s and failed to push through a system to continue forth.

We simply do not have any system at all and the result is over 12,000,000 Residents of our country who are not officially members of the society in which they live. 

The few who come to our borders daily could be easily managed with a simple system but there is WAY more political funding available for asinine emotional bullshit fights. 

We need to fix the system 

We actually do have a system, I know, I came through it.

 

[Dog]

AND NOW YOU ARE UNWILLING TO ACCEPT US VALUES AND ARE SEEKING TO CHANGE THE US TO FIT YOUR WANTS.

What are you talking about, I'm pro immigrant?

 

[Clove Hitch]

What are you talking about, I'm pro immigrant?

And you're an independent.

And you have no interest in defending Republicans.

And you don't support Trump

 

[Kirwan]

Dog's just spouting the GOP mantra: "I got mine, fuck you!"

 

[Dog]

And you're an independent.

And you have no interest in defending Republicans.

And you don't support Trump

And I'm in favor of immigration. (Not to be confused with trespassing).

 

[Bus Driver]

And I'm in favor of immigration. (Not to be confused with trespassing).

How about those who seek asylum?

 

[mikewof]

Curiously while Roger Waters thinks The Wall is Pink Floyds best work,  David Gilmore believes it to be Wish You Were Here. 

I agree with Gilmore.

They each pick something other than Comfortably Numb because they both know that the pinnacle of their work is that song and it couldn't exist without their collaboration.

They both know, in their hearts, it's Comfortably Numb.

 

[Dog]

It wouldn't be confused with trespassing - that's different all together. Unless you are bullshitting some dumbass rightwing lie equating undocumented immigration with trespass like a rightwing troglodyte would?

Undocumented immigration is trespassing.

 

[Dog]

which is of course why you defend Trump cuts to legal immigration. every day is a bullshit day for dog.

Bullshit.

 

[SloopJonB]

We actually do have a system, I know, I came through it.

AND NOW YOU ARE UNWILLING TO ACCEPT US VALUES AND ARE SEEKING TO CHANGE THE US TO FIT YOUR WANTS

If anyone ever needed proof that your immigration system is broken, the Mutts statement proves it.

 

[Bent Sailor]

But they are in Mexico and escaping war is not a valid reason for one to be allowed to cross the border between Mexico into the US there being no war in Mexico..

Incorrect. Asylum doesn't legally require what you are claiming it does. You are either ignorant of the law or dishonestly claiming what you know to be false. 

 

[Amati]

http://www.pewglobal.org/2018/02/28/global-migrant-stocks/?country=US&date=2017

 

[SloopJonB]

With the Mutt it's plain old ignorance.

Well, that and stupidity.

 

[Bent Sailor]

He didn’t make a claim about asylum you idiot. Are you imagining that he did or just making a claim. 

You are one whiny cunt these days Grumpy.

GUMPY was always a "whiny cunt". It's all he ever did. In this case, he's also wrong - Dog simply stated "escaping war is not a valid reason for one to be allowed to cross the border between Mexico into the US" as there is no war in Mexico. As escaping war is a valid reason to seek asylum, seeking asylum at a port of entry is legal, and there is no requirement for asylum seekers to stop at the first country not at war; Dog is wrong. So is GUMPY.

Now please do refrain from quoting the stunted little pervert. Some of us have the nutter on ignore and, as evident, we're not missing anything of note.

 

[Dog]

Incorrect. Asylum doesn't legally require what you are claiming it does. You are either ignorant of the law or dishonestly claiming what you know to be false. 

You are not instrumental in, or really even relevant to, the decision making process. As such, your opinion isn't relevant"....Bent Sailor