The Wall

[Sol Rosenberg]

So why do you think Democrats oppose approving the $5B?

For the same reason that they restored Paygo yesterday, to keep from wasting money and increasing the deficit.  https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/house-adopts-rules-package-democratic-defections-paygo-provision

 

[Dog]

For the same reason that they restored Paygo yesterday, to keep from wasting money and increasing the deficit.  https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/house-adopts-rules-package-democratic-defections-paygo-provision

You think they won't authorize the $5B because they are concerned about the deficit......Ha!

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

You think they won't authorize the $5B because they are concerned about the deficit......Ha!

Have we now established that you support spending $5 billion of taxpayer money on a wall at the southern border?

 

[learningJ24]

We've proven Trump and the R's aren't concerned about the deficit. Where have all the "fiscal conservatives" gone? Did they ever really exist?

 

[Dog]

Have we now established that you support spending $5 billion of taxpayer money on a wall at the southern border?

I support spending what is needed to secure the border, I am ambivalent about how it is accomplished. You can argue about degrees of secure all you want but the current  humanitarian crisis in Tijuana demonstrates conclusively that current measures are inadequate.  

 

[Dog]

We've proven Trump and the R's aren't concerned about the deficit. Where have all the "fiscal conservatives" gone? Did they ever really exist?

No one in Washington is serious about the deficit.

 

[learningJ24]

Which, were I to Dog the topic, means you agree that fiscal conservatives never existed?

 

[Dog]

Which, were I to Dog the topic, means you agree that fiscal conservatives never existed?

Well I don't know that they never existed but certainly an endangered species particularly in Washington. Last sighting I recall was Clinton/Kasich back in the day.

 

[Raz'r]

Can we get real here. We have caravans of thousands of central Americans advancing on the southern border. 60,000 illegal crossing apprehensions in a single month. Families crossing in the dangerous El Paso sector up 20 times year over year. All are undeterred by our current border security measures.

The president is requesting a paltry $5B which is more than he will settle for and less than is needed. The reason Democrats won't support the $5B is because they are only pretending to be for border security, they see votes crossing the border. The "walls are immoral" or that they don't work arguments are transparently bullshit. That and they want to stick it to Trump.

It's all about the accumulation of power and revenge.

Republicans wouldn’t pay for it, why should Dems?

 

[Raz'r]

I support spending what is needed to secure the border, I am ambivalent about how it is accomplished. You can argue about degrees of secure all you want but the current  humanitarian crisis in Tijuana demonstrates conclusively that current measures are inadequate.  

It’s in tijuana. Are you going to build the wall south of Tijuana now?

get your story straight.

and Trumps got $2T in new debt since he started, during a major economic growth period. Hangovers gonna hurt.

 

[dacapo]

Republicans wouldn’t pay for it, why should Dems?

Mexico wouldn't pay for it, why should we?

 

[Dog]

Republicans wouldn’t pay for it, why should Dems?

So they don't appear to be as hopeless as Republicans.

 

[dacapo]

It’s in tijuana. Are you going to build the wall south of Tijuana now?

get your story straight.

and Trumps got $2T in new debt since he started, during a major economic growth period. Hangovers gonna hurt.

and barely spent the $ for  boarder protection from last year.............

 

[GER308]

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Trump may or may not get The Wall but the Chinese got The Dark Side of the Moon first.

 

[Dog]

When people start talking about the need to spend a paltry $5 billion on a wall that won't really work... 

What do you suggest?

 

[Raz'r]

So they don't appear to be as hopeless as Republicans.

They aren’t quaking in their boots like you are.

 

[Raz'r]

What do you suggest?

Considering our border is secure, a bit of incremental improvement as approved by last years senate.

 

[Dog]

Considering our border is secure, a bit of incremental improvement as approved by last years senate.

Manifestly not.

 

[dacapo]

Take the jobs available sign down and you will not need a wall. 

that would be e verify.....  it should be mandatory in all 50 states...not just 20 or so

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

Well I don't know that they never existed but certainly an endangered species particularly in Washington. Last sighting I recall was Clinton/Kasich back in the day.

Ignoring the Paygo implementation and working the discussion away from it. That’s some good bullshitting. Another treat for you.