This Non-Violent Stuff Will Get You Killed

Pertinacious Tom

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This Non-Violent Stuff Will Get You Killed

...A noted journalist and professor at Brown University, Cobb recently published, “This Nonviolent Stuff’ll Get You Killed,” a look at firearms inside the Civil Rights movement, which includes a firsthand account of his experiences.

Cobb maintained in a recent interview with NPR that he witnessed the untold story of guns inside the civil rights movement. He gained that experience as a field secretary for the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) in Mississippi from 1962 to 1967.

The SNCC was one of the most important organizations of the American Civil Rights Movement.

“I worked in the South. I lived with families in the South,” explained Cobb to NPR. “There was never a family I stayed with that didn’t have a gun. I know from personal experience and the experiences of others that guns kept people alive, kept communities safe. And all you have to do to understand this is simply think of black people as human beings, and they’re going to respond to terrorism the way anybody else would.”

Cobb went on in the interview to describe an encounter that a journalist had with Dr. Martin Luther King while visiting the civil rights leader at his Montgomery home, where King had frequently received death threats.

An associate of King’s cautioned the journalist before he sat down in an armchair that there was not just one, but “a couple of guns” hidden in that particular piece of furniture.

King later applied for a concealed carry permit to the local sheriff and was denied, but, according to Cobb, “Martin King always acknowledged, if you read his writings, the right to self-defense – armed self-defense.”...
Does anyone want to guess at the reason Martin Luther King's concealed weapons permit was denied?

I already know the answer, but will entertain guesses for a while before revealing it.

 
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Does anyone want to guess at the reason Martin Luther King's concealed weapons permit was denied?

I already know the answer, but will entertain guesses for a while before revealing it.
Was it too difficult for him to get a photo ID, being black and all?

 
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Pertinacious Tom

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Been reading "Gun Fight" Tom? Good book.
No, my reading list is more occupied with fun stuff than educational.

But the NPR interview transcript accompanying the topic article is interesting.

The "non-violence" movement was not exactly filled with conscientious objectors...

...Hartman Turnbow, a legendary figure in Mississippi's movement - when he drove the - he drove the night riders away one night with his rifle, and if the rumor is true, he even killed one of them. So when we showed up the next morning, Mr. Turnbow, who was a farmer, said - and this an exact quote. I wasn't being non-nonviolent. I was just protecting my family.
 

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May issue, shall issue, will issue, won't issue, could issue, can't issue, might issue ...

Concealed Carry is going to erode the Second Amendment because a right doesn't require permission from someone if you've retained your rights, either guaranteed or not. You concealed carry nuts are going to do it to yourselves and you'll have nobody to blame but yourselves.

And yeah, I get that some states have CC without permit, and others allow OC but some condition it, etc., etc.. Go blame the anti-nutters, go blame the politicians, go blame everyone but yourselves. If you can't feel comfortable with your firearm displayed openly then you shouldn't be carrying a weapon, that's my opinion, insult away, if I hear something new I'll let you know, otherwise, my silence indicates your repetition.

 

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May issue, shall issue...

Concealed Carry is going to erode the Second Amendment because a right doesn't require permission from someone if you've retained your rights, either guaranteed or not. ..
Yes, may issue and shall issue are the only choices.

Does your objection to concealed carry apply to gun registries and firearms owner's ID cards? The issue of asking permission to exercise a right seems the same to me, but I've never noticed you objecting to gun registration nor ID cards. Do you believe the issues are the same?

I can't feel comfortable with my firearm openly displayed because I don't always want to pretend that I'm hunting or fishing and anti-gunners have outlawed open carry in any other circumstance. I'm uncomfortable breaking the law, stupid though I think it is.

 
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I re-read it and I didn't see anything at all in the Connie about CC or OC. Personally, the RKBA means I should be able to carry my arms slung over my shoulder or tucked into a holster under my jacket out of sight. I see no distinction.

cloofey, your issue with CCW is misplaced. We all agree that there are certain sensible limits on all of our rights. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater, you can't defame or libel someone in the press and you must pass a background check to gain your 2A rights. I don't particularly like the licensing requirements for CCW - but I can see the value in it. I don't want some untrained schumk carrying a weapon in public who does't know the ROE.

 

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This Non-Violent Stuff Will Get You Killed

...A noted journalist and professor at Brown University, Cobb recently published, “This Nonviolent Stuff’ll Get You Killed,” a look at firearms inside the Civil Rights movement, which includes a firsthand account of his experiences.

Cobb maintained in a recent interview with NPR that he witnessed the untold story of guns inside the civil rights movement. He gained that experience as a field secretary for the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) in Mississippi from 1962 to 1967.

The SNCC was one of the most important organizations of the American Civil Rights Movement.

“I worked in the South. I lived with families in the South,” explained Cobb to NPR. “There was never a family I stayed with that didn’t have a gun. I know from personal experience and the experiences of others that guns kept people alive, kept communities safe. And all you have to do to understand this is simply think of black people as human beings, and they’re going to respond to terrorism the way anybody else would.”

Cobb went on in the interview to describe an encounter that a journalist had with Dr. Martin Luther King while visiting the civil rights leader at his Montgomery home, where King had frequently received death threats.

An associate of King’s cautioned the journalist before he sat down in an armchair that there was not just one, but “a couple of guns” hidden in that particular piece of furniture.

King later applied for a concealed carry permit to the local sheriff and was denied, but, according to Cobb, “Martin King always acknowledged, if you read his writings, the right to self-defense – armed self-defense.”...
Does anyone want to guess at the reason Martin Luther King's concealed weapons permit was denied?

I already know the answer, but will entertain guesses for a while before revealing it.
The violent stuff can get you killed too. Google Black Panthers and assassination sometime.
How would a CW have saved King from a sniper?

 

Pertinacious Tom

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This Non-Violent Stuff Will Get You Killed

...A noted journalist and professor at Brown University, Cobb recently published, “This Nonviolent Stuff’ll Get You Killed,” a look at firearms inside the Civil Rights movement, which includes a firsthand account of his experiences.

Cobb maintained in a recent interview with NPR that he witnessed the untold story of guns inside the civil rights movement. He gained that experience as a field secretary for the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) in Mississippi from 1962 to 1967.

The SNCC was one of the most important organizations of the American Civil Rights Movement.

“I worked in the South. I lived with families in the South,” explained Cobb to NPR. “There was never a family I stayed with that didn’t have a gun. I know from personal experience and the experiences of others that guns kept people alive, kept communities safe. And all you have to do to understand this is simply think of black people as human beings, and they’re going to respond to terrorism the way anybody else would.”

Cobb went on in the interview to describe an encounter that a journalist had with Dr. Martin Luther King while visiting the civil rights leader at his Montgomery home, where King had frequently received death threats.

An associate of King’s cautioned the journalist before he sat down in an armchair that there was not just one, but “a couple of guns” hidden in that particular piece of furniture.

King later applied for a concealed carry permit to the local sheriff and was denied, but, according to Cobb, “Martin King always acknowledged, if you read his writings, the right to self-defense – armed self-defense.”...
Does anyone want to guess at the reason Martin Luther King's concealed weapons permit was denied?

I already know the answer, but will entertain guesses for a while before revealing it.
The violent stuff can get you killed too. Google Black Panthers and assassination sometime.
How would a CW have saved King from a sniper?
Ask someone who claimed that a CW would have saved King.

I claim that "because I felt like it" was not a valid reason for the sheriff to deny King his permit. Do you agree or disagree? Or want to argue about something I never said?

 

Mark K

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This Non-Violent Stuff Will Get You Killed

...A noted journalist and professor at Brown University, Cobb recently published, “This Nonviolent Stuff’ll Get You Killed,” a look at firearms inside the Civil Rights movement, which includes a firsthand account of his experiences.

Cobb maintained in a recent interview with NPR that he witnessed the untold story of guns inside the civil rights movement. He gained that experience as a field secretary for the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) in Mississippi from 1962 to 1967.

The SNCC was one of the most important organizations of the American Civil Rights Movement.

“I worked in the South. I lived with families in the South,” explained Cobb to NPR. “There was never a family I stayed with that didn’t have a gun. I know from personal experience and the experiences of others that guns kept people alive, kept communities safe. And all you have to do to understand this is simply think of black people as human beings, and they’re going to respond to terrorism the way anybody else would.”

Cobb went on in the interview to describe an encounter that a journalist had with Dr. Martin Luther King while visiting the civil rights leader at his Montgomery home, where King had frequently received death threats.

An associate of King’s cautioned the journalist before he sat down in an armchair that there was not just one, but “a couple of guns” hidden in that particular piece of furniture.

King later applied for a concealed carry permit to the local sheriff and was denied, but, according to Cobb, “Martin King always acknowledged, if you read his writings, the right to self-defense – armed self-defense.”...
Does anyone want to guess at the reason Martin Luther King's concealed weapons permit was denied?

I already know the answer, but will entertain guesses for a while before revealing it.
The violent stuff can get you killed too. Google Black Panthers and assassination sometime.
How would a CW have saved King from a sniper?
Ask someone who claimed that a CW would have saved King.

I claim that "because I felt like it" was not a valid reason for the sheriff to deny King his permit. Do you agree or disagree? Or want to argue about something I never said?
That "get ya killed" stuff misled me into thinking you were referring to something that would have made a difference for King.
 

Pertinacious Tom

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Oh. Try reading the topic post, including links, and you won't be as confused. Perhaps Cobb chose that title with more in mind than King's assassination.

I do note that you are not interested in answering my question or addressing my point about carry laws.

 

Mark K

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Oh. Try reading the topic post, including links, and you won't be as confused. Perhaps Cobb chose that title with more in mind than King's assassination.

I do note that you are not interested in answering my question or addressing my point about carry laws.
That point conflates shall-issue CCW opponents with all gun owners and pacifists, even racists. Since I am certain that is pile of malarkey, I have no interest in debating it.
The only thing that interested me was what this had to do with the King assassination. It's now clear that was simply some indulging in a little constitutional throat-clearing.

 
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