Transat Jacques Vabre 2021

yl75

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That's a great question, PIL66 - XL2. The French are certainly the masters of Ocean Racing, that's for sure. And way ahead of the bunch in terms of leading yacht design.

Not sure what their sailing programmes are like for young kids and youth, but there is certainly no shortage of rigorous training for up-and-coming ocean racers (Mini 6.5, Figaro, etc)  particularly for short and single handers.

They're very impressive.
There is quite a good organisation for the olympics and you have "sports études" sailing programs, for kids in high school that are also integrated to sports school (sailing in that case), but indeed the results have not been great (some medals in 470 and windsurfing especially).

Still 4th in below global table (but a lot of them from old games apparently) :



Overall Medal Total by Nation




Rank


Nation


Gold


Silver


Bronze


Total






1


22px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png
 Great Britain [SIZE=12.6px](GBR)[/SIZE]


31


21


12


64




2


22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png
 United States [SIZE=12.6px](USA)[/SIZE]


19


23


19


61




3


22px-Flag_of_Norway.svg.png
 Norway [SIZE=12.6px](NOR)[/SIZE]


17


11


4


32




4


22px-Flag_of_France.svg.png
 France [SIZE=12.6px](FRA)[/SIZE]


15


14


20


49




5


22px-Flag_of_Denmark.svg.png
 Denmark [SIZE=12.6px](DEN)[/SIZE]


13


9


9


31




6


22px-Flag_of_Australia.svg.png
 Australia [SIZE=12.6px](AUS)[/SIZE]


13


8


8


29




7


22px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png
 Spain [SIZE=12.6px](ESP)[/SIZE]


13


5


3


21




8


22px-Flag_of_Sweden.svg.png
 Sweden [SIZE=12.6px](SWE)[/SIZE]


10


14


13


37




9


22px-Flag_of_New_Zealand.svg.png
 New Zealand [SIZE=12.6px](NZL)[/SIZE]


9


8


6


23




10


22px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png
 Netherlands [SIZE=12.6px](NED)[/SIZE]


8


9


9


26




11


22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png
 Brazil [SIZE=12.6px](BRA)[/SIZE]


8


3


8


19




12


22px-Flag_of_the_Soviet_Union.svg.png
 Soviet Union [SIZE=12.6px](URS)[/SIZE]


4


5


3


12




13


22px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png
 Italy [SIZE=12.6px](ITA)[/SIZE]


4


3


8


15




14


22px-Flag_of_Austria.svg.png
 Austria [SIZE=12.6px](AUT)[/SIZE]


3


4


1


8







https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailing_at_the_Summer_Olympics

The "competitive dinghy racing" might be less developed than in Holland or the UK  maybe, also windsurfing (and now kiting), have put quite a dent in olympics classes (but it is also true in other countries probably).

And in fact France is doing very well in Windsurfing and Kiting : several olympics medals in Windsurfing, Nicolas (or Thomas I forgot) Goyard also won all the latest competitions in IQ foil (new olympics OD for windsurfing), also in Kite racing (forgot the names), and in the PWA (Professional Windsurfers Association), Antoine Albeau is reigning in Slalom for many years, 20 world titles or something (with many other French behind).

 
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There is quite a good organisation for the olympics and you have "sports études" sailing programs, for kids in high school that are also integrated to sports school (sailing in that case), but indeed the results have not been great (some medals in 470 and windsurfing especially).

Still 4th in below global table (but a lot of them from old games apparently) :



Overall Medal Total by Nation




Rank


Nation


Gold


Silver


Bronze


Total






1


 Great Britain [SIZE=12.6px](GBR)[/SIZE]


31


21


12


64




2


 United States [SIZE=12.6px](USA)[/SIZE]


19


23


19


61




3


 Norway [SIZE=12.6px](NOR)[/SIZE]


17


11


4


32




4


 France [SIZE=12.6px](FRA)[/SIZE]


15


14


20


49




5


 Denmark [SIZE=12.6px](DEN)[/SIZE]


13


9


9


31




6


 Australia [SIZE=12.6px](AUS)[/SIZE]


13


8


8


29




7


 Spain [SIZE=12.6px](ESP)[/SIZE]


13


5


3


21




8


 Sweden [SIZE=12.6px](SWE)[/SIZE]


10


14


13


37




9


 New Zealand [SIZE=12.6px](NZL)[/SIZE]


9


8


6


23




10


 Netherlands [SIZE=12.6px](NED)[/SIZE]


8


9


9


26




11


 Brazil [SIZE=12.6px](BRA)[/SIZE]


8


3


8


19




12


 Soviet Union [SIZE=12.6px](URS)[/SIZE]


4


5


3


12




13


 Italy [SIZE=12.6px](ITA)[/SIZE]


4


3


8


15




14


 Austria [SIZE=12.6px](AUT)[/SIZE]


3


4


1


8







https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailing_at_the_Summer_Olympics

The "competitive dinghy racing" might be less developed than in Holland or the UK  maybe, also windsurfing (and now kiting), have put quite a dent in olympics classes (but it is also true in other countries probably).

And in fact France is doing very well in Windsurfing and Kiting : several olympics medals in Windsurfing, Nicolas (or Thomas I forgot) Goyard also won all the latest competitions in IQ foil (new olympics OD for windsurfing), also in Kite racing (forgot the names), and in the PWA (Professional Windsurfers Association), Antoine Albeau is reigning in Slalom for many years, 20 world titles or something (with many other French behind).
Success in offshore sailing engenders media coverage and possible sponsorship, young people gravitate to best opportunity.

Blame Eric Tabarly!

 

Herman

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The Netherlands
Well done indeed Thomas & Morgan. Also for Charles & Franck. Due to busy stuff (private and finishing my work project) I have not been routing in the past days. But no surprises so far in the ranking as predicted days earlier. Linkedout will go up in my polar ranking though, comparable to Apivia. Did not see that one coming.

 
Well done indeed Thomas & Morgan. Also for Charles & Franck. Due to busy stuff (private and finishing my work project) I have not been routing in the past days. But no surprises so far in the ranking as predicted days earlier. Linkedout will go up in my polar ranking though, comparable to Apivia. Did not see that one coming.
Priorities please :)

 

kass

Member
By the way, geovoile should have kept their "data" button with the speed graphs, DTL, position overtime, etc, it is/was really handy.

(with one per class in this case of course)
I agree, although it's probably just an optional feature that organisers can choose to pay for or not.

I've been especially missing the rankings history charts...and finally got round to making some myself (better late than never). They are upside down (i.e. first is at the bottom), and I have not set it up to update automatically every hour (not sure I will bother, given it's nearly over), but some of you might find them interesting.

Ultime: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQzbhC2CfVW61b_T1XfpJWCEsdd5m4pDcZ7DNLL1dRhJaYwTYBKlrzFksBhqcFN_QEYISLLMbvCIY9T/pubchart?oid=1160517827&format=interactive

IMOCA: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQzbhC2CfVW61b_T1XfpJWCEsdd5m4pDcZ7DNLL1dRhJaYwTYBKlrzFksBhqcFN_QEYISLLMbvCIY9T/pubchart?oid=595273413&format=interactive

Ocean Fifty: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQzbhC2CfVW61b_T1XfpJWCEsdd5m4pDcZ7DNLL1dRhJaYwTYBKlrzFksBhqcFN_QEYISLLMbvCIY9T/pubchart?oid=1998891296&format=interactive

Class 40: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQzbhC2CfVW61b_T1XfpJWCEsdd5m4pDcZ7DNLL1dRhJaYwTYBKlrzFksBhqcFN_QEYISLLMbvCIY9T/pubchart?oid=1483585647&format=interactive

 
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Boink

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Bravo Thomas, Morgan and LinkedOut!

Excellent to see such a Victory.

The class is in rude health and great hands. 

Fingers remain crossed for Iniatives Coeur & Sam.

 

wildbirdtoo

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I haven't seen it posted here...  Ian Lipinski’s Crédit Mutuel has damage to the keel after a collision, so are proceeding at reduced speed.  (Can you call 10knots reduced speed, I wonder? Only marginally slower than boats surrounding them)

 

Roleur

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After 19 days, only 3.5nm separate 2-4 in the C40's and they are lined up in sight of each other.  Time for an 800nm drag race.  This should be good.  

 

kass

Member
I agree, although it's probably just an optional feature that organisers can choose to pay for or not.

I've been especially missing the rankings history charts...and finally got round to making some myself (better late than never). They are upside down (i.e. first is at the bottom), and I have not set it up to update automatically every hour (not sure I will bother, given it's nearly over), but some of you might find them interesting.

Ultime: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQzbhC2CfVW61b_T1XfpJWCEsdd5m4pDcZ7DNLL1dRhJaYwTYBKlrzFksBhqcFN_QEYISLLMbvCIY9T/pubchart?oid=1160517827&format=interactive

IMOCA: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQzbhC2CfVW61b_T1XfpJWCEsdd5m4pDcZ7DNLL1dRhJaYwTYBKlrzFksBhqcFN_QEYISLLMbvCIY9T/pubchart?oid=595273413&format=interactive

Ocean Fifty: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQzbhC2CfVW61b_T1XfpJWCEsdd5m4pDcZ7DNLL1dRhJaYwTYBKlrzFksBhqcFN_QEYISLLMbvCIY9T/pubchart?oid=1998891296&format=interactive

Class 40: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQzbhC2CfVW61b_T1XfpJWCEsdd5m4pDcZ7DNLL1dRhJaYwTYBKlrzFksBhqcFN_QEYISLLMbvCIY9T/pubchart?oid=1483585647&format=interactive
Regarding my rankings history charts, I've 'fixed'* them so that they aren't upside down (i.e. boat in first is now at the top of the chart). Also, the link for the Ocean Fifty chart has changed and can now be seen at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQzbhC2CfVW61b_T1XfpJWCEsdd5m4pDcZ7DNLL1dRhJaYwTYBKlrzFksBhqcFN_QEYISLLMbvCIY9T/pubchart?oid=1156002066&format=interactive

* for some inexplicable reason, Google Sheets allows you to reverse the order of the values on the x axis, but not the y axis, so to flip it I've multiplied all the rankings values by -1. Just ignore the sign.

Screenshot 2021-11-26 at 19.56.30.png

 

staysail

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Arkea doing 6 kts just gybed in front of Initiatives sailing deeper at 8.2 with 15.1 nm to catch up. Not much sleep following this battle to the finish!

 

Sailbydate

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Looks like it will be bragging rights, at the breakfast table, for Sam over partner, Romain.

An excellent result following her, VG disappointment.

 
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