Transgender Day of Remembrance

[Marty Gingras]

Hey dipshit,

Can you cite the post where I said they were setting cities on fire?

He got you there @Steam Flyer. You picked on the wrong deranged fukwit.

 

[jzk]

Who came there for a POSITIVE reason, who came there for a NEGATIVE reason?

There are a whole lot of things that are good that we should have that don't belong in schools. Like South Park and blowjobs.

Loving the person of your choice is good. Having kids in grade schools dress up to celebrate it is not.

 

[Bus Driver]

It is wrong to take out your grievances on innocent people. So if innocent people's property was burned and looted during the race riots, that was wrong.

What we need is more 17 year-olds with semi-automatic weapons patrolling, right?

 

[Grrr...]

It is wrong to take out your grievances on innocent people. So if innocent people's property was burned and looted during the race riots, that was wrong.

I agree, I wish it could be done without the violence. However, it's pretty clear that in many cases politicians won't LISTEN unless the people do things like this.

So, do you agree, that this violence does not mean that Antifa is not, in fact, Anti-Facist? Much like the violence in the race riots did not somehow invalidate those?

 

[MagentaLine]

What we need is more 17 year-olds with semi-automatic weapons patrolling, right

Yes! This fucker won't be rioting anymore. At least not with his right arm.

 

[Sisyphus]

I think they need XX chromosomes to have a successful pregnancies.

XY gonadal dysgenesis (Swyer Syndrome) is one example. As far as I understand, the gonads are usually underdeveloped, but people who have XY gonadal dysgenesis have been impregnated with donor eggs and there has been a case of unassisted pregnancy in a women who was predominately XY.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5885995/

Report of Fertility in a Woman with a Predominantly 46,XY Karyotype in a Family with Multiple Disorders of Sexual Development

Context: We report herein a remarkable family in which the mother of a woman with 46,XY complete gonadal dysgenesis was found to have a 46,XY karyotype in peripheral lymphocytes, mosaicism in cultured skin fibroblasts (80% 46,XY and 20% 45,X) and a predominantly ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

But my larger point is that things like “man” and “woman” are actually complex, and that reducing them to abstractions of an overly simplified feature set leads to logically incoherent positions.

There is a whole thread seeming to deride democrats who think a man can be pregnant (22%, I think, based on some poll). Ironically though, the poster of that thread agrees here with a definition of “man” under which a man definitely can be pregnant.

This started with the statement “if you have XY you are a man.” Well people with predominant and full gonadal dysgenesis have XY chromosomes can become pregnant. So if someone agrees that “if you have XY you are a man,” they must also agree that a man (not necassirly all men) can become pregnant.

If they agree with “if you have XY you are a man,” but disagree that a man can be pregnant, they are not using a logically inconsistent definition of man.

If XY=man
If man=not able to be pregnant, then
If XY=not able to be pregnant.

But XY can be pregnant. So XY=man and/or man=not able to be pregnant must be a false categorical statement.

We are constantly in the process of renegotiating the social contract as to the meaning of words as we learn more about the world and the people in it. One side of that negotiation wants “man” and “woman” to represent a single feature or simple group of (inconsistent) features with which they are comfortable and refuse to recognize that what it means to be a man or a woman may be more complex.

 

[veni vidi vici]

Venom= not wanting clergy to be pepper sprayed by violent white supremacists?

You’re certainly a weird duck

Why do you gravitate and fixate on the most extreme examples of .001 % of the population
and then lash out at the rest of the population
of traditional conservative Americans ???
Oh ! Because you must amplify the extreme to justify your black bile

 

[Bus Driver]

Yes! This fucker won't be rioting anymore. At least not with his right arm.

Admit it. That picture gives you a chubby, doesn't it?

 

[jzk]

Who came there for a POSITIVE reason, who came there for a NEGATIVE reason?

Seems like antifa was there armed with pepper spray. What was their positive reason for being there and using the pepper spray?

 

[Sisyphus]

There are a whole lot of things that are good that we should have that don't belong in schools. Like South Park and blowjobs.

Loving the person of your choice is good. Having kids in grade schools dress up to celebrate it is not.

Do you disagree with sex-Ed in schools? I don’t see why middle-school/junior high sex-ed should be prohibited from talking about blowjobs. We all knew about them, at least in theory, way earlier than that and we didn’t even have the Internet.

I don’t really see the issue with sex-ed teaching that there are different forms of sexual expression, consent issues because not every form of expression is for everyone, and about health issues related to the different forms of expression.

 

[MagentaLine]

Admit it. That picture gives you a chubby, doesn't it?

Ooohhhh yuge boner!

 

[Bus Driver]

Ooohhhh yuge boner!

That's pathological. But, we already figured that out about you.

 

[Dog 2.0]

I agree, I wish it could be done without the violence. However, it's pretty clear that in many cases politicians won't LISTEN unless the people do things like this.

So, do you agree, that this violence does not mean that Antifa is not, in fact, Anti-Facist? Much like the violence in the race riots did not somehow invalidate those?

And just because the Pittsburg Penguins play hockey does not mean they are not penguins.

 

[jzk]

Do you disagree with sex-Ed in schools? I don’t see why middle-school/junior high sex-ed should be prohibited from talking about blowjobs. We all knew about them, at least in theory, way earlier than that and we didn’t even have the Internet.

I don’t really see the issue with sex-ed teaching that there are different forms of sexual expression, consent issues because not every form of expression is for everyone, and about health issues related to the different forms of expression.

If you already knew about blow jobs, why the need to spend taxpayer funds teaching you? Better if that was spent teaching you how to read, write and be productive.

 

[Mike G]

Not everybody knows about everything. We're going through the work of a 7th grader, and Sexual Education is the topic right now. It's VERY well presented, in my opinion.

 

[Sisyphus]

If you already knew about blow jobs, why the need to spend taxpayer funds teaching you? Better if that was spent teaching you how to read, write and be productive.

There is more to blowjobs than that they exist. There are health issues and the best place to address those on a public health basis is in schools.

I would include relationships, health (including sexual health) and enabling decisions with respect to those issues as part of promoting a healthy, productive society.

You have a very siloed view of learning. You can promote reading, writing and productivity while incorporating other types of learning. The whole IB curriculum does that.

 

[jzk]

There is more to blowjobs than that they exist. There are health issues and the best place to address those on a public health basis is in schools.

I would include relationships, health (including sexual health) and enabling decisions with respect to those issues as part of promoting a healthy, productive society.

You have a very siloed view of learning. You can promote reading, writing and productivity while incorporating other types of learning. The whole IB curriculum does that.

Health? From whom are you getting your blowjobs?

 

[Sisyphus]

Health? From whom are you getting your blowjobs?

Oh, I’m a gentleman and would never tell.

On an unrelated note, does your wife want her earrings back?

 

[Keith]

 

[Gouvernail]

I am not sure at all what I think about this proposed Thistle class constitutional amendment

Constitution Article IV, Paragraph 6 to read: The Thistle Class Association shall not sanction or approve of any regatta or award that limits, restricts, or otherwise defines eligibility on the basis of sex, sexual orientation, or gender identity.

If I understand the verbiage of the proposed amendment to the Thistle Class Constitution, the effect of this amendment will be to ban awards for:
* all female team
* mixed female / male team
* all male team
* Mother’s Day regattas where moms steer
* Father’s Day regattas where Dad’s steer
*gay regattas


I certainly understand the need to avoid bringing the politics of sexual discrimination and gender identity into our sailboat racing community but I hate the sledgehammer of rules and constitutional amendments.

I am the kind of regatta host who gives out trophies for:
* 12 year old boys who finished ahead of their sixteen year old sister for the first time ever.
* being the first female with a guy’s name as her last name . ( Yes. I have Jackie Henry a trophy for that at an Easter Laser Regatta. She finished ahead of two girls with last name Stewart, one named Arnold, and a girl named Harrison)


You can count me as one who loves the fact the sex and / or sexual orientation of a raving sailor has very little to do with ability to compete on a Thistle.

But…. I am not ready to ban Women’s regattas
or the giving of awards for all female, all male, or mixed gender teams.

I believe it is fun to recognize and award all sorts of accomplishments at a trophy presentation.

It shouldn’t be against Class rules to give a trophy to a grandmother because she finished ahead of her grand kids.
Certainly that award would be a tad sexist, but it could be presented in a manner where everybody recognizes how cool it is Grandmothers can enjoy racing sailboats against their grandkids. and grandkids can enjoy trying to get good enough to finish ahead of Gramma.

I don’t like rules like this one.