Transgender Day of Remembrance

[Voyageur]

Free speech is a hill to die on, many have. Without it you have Goebbels, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Putin, Castro....

the people you named were free to speak. what is your point?

 

[Bus Driver]

I am unaware of Congress making any speech illegal. Help a brother out?

 

[Steam Flyer]

By now it should be clear to everyone with a brain that the stochastic terrorism charge is simply a thinly veiled attempt to stifle free speech.

More bullshit. You are free to say anything you want and repeat anything you want. You aren’t free to duck responsibility. If you don’t like it, don’t spread the hate.

Because "Free Speech!" ought to mean freedom from consequences of ones' speech... say for example, spreading harmful lies about a person or a group of people is actionable in US law. It doesn't seem to be happening often enough; last time one of the hate-spew bullshitter was held to account, he just shrugged and said "only an idiot would take what I say seriously, I'm just an entertainer."

 

[Voyageur]

it's almost like today. people are banning books again, not in nazi germany, in places like florida.

 

[Steam Flyer]

No, My link is to a substack article which is a perfectly acceptable source when Heather Cox Richardson writes in it and when Glen Greenwald writes in it.

Heather Cox Richardson is a professor of history, knowledgeable and truthful. Glen Greenwald is an entertainer in the hate-spew business.

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

Because "Free Speech!" ought to mean freedom from consequences of ones' speech... say for example, spreading harmful lies about a person or a group of people is actionable in US law. It doesn't seem to be happening often enough; last time one of the hate-spew bullshitter was held to account, he just shrugged and said "only an idiot would take what I say seriously, I'm just an entertainer."

Yup. Just like the days when Regatta Dog was here bitching about black guys being able to say “nigger” but he couldn’t. He had great difficulty with the concept of freedom of speech vs. freedom from consequences. It wasn’t just unfair. It was SO Unfair.

 

[Dog 2.0]

the people you named were free to speak. what is your point?

Suppression of free speech was central to their power.

 

[Dog 2.0]

Heather Cox Richardson is a professor of history, knowledgeable and truthful. Glen Greenwald is an entertainer in the hate-spew business.

I don't think you know very much about GG.

 

[Steam Flyer]

Suppressed of free speech was central to their power.

And screaming hateful lies, deliberately spreading lies to damage other people & groups of people, is central to the gaining of power for fascists so they can destroy actual freedom of speech.

 

[Voyageur]

Suppression of free speech was central to their power.

well, twatter would not let them say those things.

 

[Dog 2.0]

Heather Cox Richardson is a professor of history, knowledgeable and truthful. Glen Greenwald is an entertainer in the hate-spew business.

Ironic that you would lie about a gay man like this, in this thread.

 

[Dog 2.0]

And screaming hateful lies, deliberately spreading lies to damage other people & groups of people, is central to the gaining of power for fascists so they can destroy actual freedom of speech.

Which is why the right to counter them is so important.

 

[Voyageur]

Suppression of free speech was central to their power.

who is suppressing free speech?

 

[Marty Gingras]

Which is why the right to counter them is so important.

You are safe from the censors now that Twitter is owned by Musk, amirite?

 

[Dog 2.0]

who is suppressing free speech?

Well... the NYP being banished from Twitter for publishing a true story harmful to the Biden's comes to mind.

 

[Voyageur]

I heard Bill Clinton got blowjobs. from the fake news.

 

[Dog 2.0]

You are safe from the censors now that Twitter is owned by Musk, amirite?

There's still you and Sol.

 

[Marty Gingras]

There's still you and Sol.

There you go again, confusing freedom of speech with freedom from consequence.

Your rigidity reminds me of this passage from Ralph Waldo Emerson: A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall.

Do better man, I know you have it in you.

 

[Dog 2.0]

There you go again, confusing freedom of speech with freedom from consequence.

Fair point, you're free to claim that saying "men cannot get pregnant" will result in mass murder.

 

[Steam Flyer]

Which is why the right to counter them is so important.

Glad you understand why I spend a small amount of time pointing out your hateful lies.