Transgender Day of Remembrance

veni vidi vici

Omne quod audimus est opinio, non res. Omnia videm
9,075
2,156
Well yes, we've got that. That's what I mean by "a tad bigoted" and that's a lot better than full-blown bigoted. We discussed the difference between acceptance and tolerance, and you remain firmly on the tolerance end of the spectrum. What I don't get is why you've made it your mission to hound Trans folks even that much. I'm pretty sure you're better than that.
Don’t twist my words and tell me what I am saying
 

00seven

James "Grumpy" Bond
3,550
1,074
Blue marble
Catlin Jenner behavior is fine with me as well as 99% of other other non normal identifying.
Spare me the in your face accept me for my outlandish, obnoxious behavior , look at me, look at me behaviors.
I find it a bit off putting when a 3rd party tells me I must accept someone for who they think they are when that someone can't accept who they really were.
 

veni vidi vici

Omne quod audimus est opinio, non res. Omnia videm
9,075
2,156
.

5C5CC8DE-5910-41E4-8BB2-08C2A370C122.jpeg
 

AB1

New member
1
2
I'm surprised so many seemingly sensible people are so dismissive about concerns raised at what is happening in the Trans movement at the moment.
Maybe it's because they just haven't done any research on what the consequences of sucking kids into the movement are; and just how much 'sucking in' is an entirely appropriate description.
It is this realisation that is changing the approach in the UK and other European countries.

Just think for a moment about some of the realities
  • There is no statistical or medically valid evidence that affirming care is the best approach, whatever proponents say. What is happening are medical experiments of the most criminal type.
  • From the moment medical intervention is started, significant medical damage is being done to the victims
  • It has long been know that human brains are not fully formed and capable of high level decision making until 25 (I think it's 21 in the case of biological females). That is science. The idea that a prepubescent child can make such a life changing, fully informed decision is beyond a joke.
  • Puberty blockers cause harm. They are not a harmless waiting drug. They result in loss of bone density, sterility and other adverse medical side effects. Plus puberty itself is an important phase of brain development, reinforcing the inability of prepubescent children to make such decisions.
  • The horrific surgical procedures that constitute surgical transition will leave victims devoid of the most sensitive sexual organs, unable experience orgasm, unable to bear or nurture children, probably unable to attract a life partner other than one similarly mutilated.
  • They are then left having to take for the rest of their life body damaging drugs to maintain their adopted gender.
To compound this criminality, the evidence is slowly accumulating that, especially for early interventions, the boys captured within the net are probably just future gay men if they were allowed to develop and many of the girls are on the spectrum, dealing with the social isolation and awkwardness that flows from that or subject to the same social contamination that brought about the Salem witch trials - especially in this time of social media.

And yet, many progressive states have criminal statute barriers to a proper mental health evaluation of a child because they deem it to be "conversation therapy".

All of this is in gross breach of the Nuremberg Code on medical experiments, and the legislation that many states have in reinforcing those principles - often with enhanced operation.

And yet people who, by the way they dismiss any objectors, clearly regard themselves as having superior empathy and intelligence, defend what is happening, acting as enablers of the whole process. Is it just because they restrict their sources of information to sources that only reinforce their own thought process or are they, to use an expression the Communists used in relation to Westerners who betrayed or undermined their own societies, the useful fools of this criminal cultist movement.
 

Steam Flyer

Sophisticated Yet Humble
48,269
11,851
Eastern NC
I'm surprised so many seemingly sensible people are so dismissive about concerns raised at what is happening in the Trans movement at the moment.
Maybe it's because they just haven't done any research on what the consequences of sucking kids into the movement are; and just how much 'sucking in' is an entirely appropriate description.
It is this realisation that is changing the approach in the UK and other European countries.

Just think for a moment about some of the realities
  • There is no statistical or medically valid evidence that affirming care is the best approach, whatever proponents say. What is happening are medical experiments of the most criminal type.
  • From the moment medical intervention is started, significant medical damage is being done to the victims
  • It has long been know that human brains are not fully formed and capable of high level decision making until 25 (I think it's 21 in the case of biological females). That is science. The idea that a prepubescent child can make such a life changing, fully informed decision is beyond a joke.
  • Puberty blockers cause harm. They are not a harmless waiting drug. They result in loss of bone density, sterility and other adverse medical side effects. Plus puberty itself is an important phase of brain development, reinforcing the inability of prepubescent children to make such decisions.
  • The horrific surgical procedures that constitute surgical transition will leave victims devoid of the most sensitive sexual organs, unable experience orgasm, unable to bear or nurture children, probably unable to attract a life partner other than one similarly mutilated.
  • They are then left having to take for the rest of their life body damaging drugs to maintain their adopted gender.
To compound this criminality, the evidence is slowly accumulating that, especially for early interventions, the boys captured within the net are probably just future gay men if they were allowed to develop and many of the girls are on the spectrum, dealing with the social isolation and awkwardness that flows from that or subject to the same social contamination that brought about the Salem witch trials - especially in this time of social media.

And yet, many progressive states have criminal statute barriers to a proper mental health evaluation of a child because they deem it to be "conversation therapy".

All of this is in gross breach of the Nuremberg Code on medical experiments, and the legislation that many states have in reinforcing those principles - often with enhanced operation.

And yet people who, by the way they dismiss any objectors, clearly regard themselves as having superior empathy and intelligence, defend what is happening, acting as enablers of the whole process. Is it just because they restrict their sources of information to sources that only reinforce their own thought process or are they, to use an expression the Communists used in relation to Westerners who betrayed or undermined their own societies, the useful fools of this criminal cultist movement.

Most of this screed applies just as much to the people who are angry about the fact that they have to share a planet with LGBTQ+ people.

And you know what else? Not being able to have kids is a plus, we've already got several billion too many people here.
 

veni vidi vici

Omne quod audimus est opinio, non res. Omnia videm
9,075
2,156
Most of this screed applies just as much to the people who are angry about the fact that they have to share a planet with LGBTQ+ people.

And you know what else? Not being able to have kids is a plus, we've already got several billion too many people here.
It is not their or anyone else’s sexual preference or identity, it’s their outlandish behavior that one is supposed to have to accept along with their sexual orientation.
 

Bus Driver

Bacon Quality Control Specialist
So, it's their job to not offend you?
Hmmmmmm.....
Have you ever experienced this "outlandish behavior" that so offends vvv's delicate sensibilities?

I know plenty of LGBTQ+ folks. The vast majority live their lives without fanfare and calling attention to their orientation. Sure, there are folks at Gay Pride parades who let their freak fly. To pretend straight cis-gendered folks don't exhibit similar behavior is denial.

In fact, most of the people I know who vvv has such a big fucking problem with live a quiet life, without calling attention to themselves PRECISELY because of how vvv and his brethren will react/respond.
 

veni vidi vici

Omne quod audimus est opinio, non res. Omnia videm
9,075
2,156
So, it's their job to not offend you?
Hmmmmmm.....
It’s their job to fit in with normal social behaviors when in public and not behave in a look at me, look at me or face the same consequences any other ass clowning behavior receives , which is usually a get out of my face or ignore and avoidance. There are all sorts of people I am sure you avoid interacting with for the above criteria.
 

veni vidi vici

Omne quod audimus est opinio, non res. Omnia videm
9,075
2,156
Have you ever experienced this "outlandish behavior" that so offends vvv's delicate sensibilities?

I know plenty of LGBTQ+ folks. The vast majority live their lives without fanfare and calling attention to their orientation. Sure, there are folks at Gay Pride parades who let their freak fly. To pretend straight cis-gendered folks don't exhibit similar behavior is denial.

In fact, most of the people I know who vvv has such a big fucking problem with live a quiet life, without calling attention to themselves PRECISELY because of how vvv and his brethren will react/respond.
You contradict yourself
If they live a “quiet “ respectful life they are not a problem for me, if they don’t they are not a problem for me because I just don’t engage with them, but I reserve the right to call them ass clowns in conversations about “them”
 

Voyageur

Super Anarchist
5,419
1,570
On The Borderline
I'm surprised so many seemingly sensible people are so dismissive about concerns raised at what is happening in the Trans movement at the moment.
Maybe it's because they just haven't done any research on what the consequences of sucking kids into the movement are; and just how much 'sucking in' is an entirely appropriate description.
It is this realisation that is changing the approach in the UK and other European countries.

Just think for a moment about some of the realities
  • There is no statistical or medically valid evidence that affirming care is the best approach, whatever proponents say. What is happening are medical experiments of the most criminal type.
  • From the moment medical intervention is started, significant medical damage is being done to the victims
  • It has long been know that human brains are not fully formed and capable of high level decision making until 25 (I think it's 21 in the case of biological females). That is science. The idea that a prepubescent child can make such a life changing, fully informed decision is beyond a joke.
  • Puberty blockers cause harm. They are not a harmless waiting drug. They result in loss of bone density, sterility and other adverse medical side effects. Plus puberty itself is an important phase of brain development, reinforcing the inability of prepubescent children to make such decisions.
  • The horrific surgical procedures that constitute surgical transition will leave victims devoid of the most sensitive sexual organs, unable experience orgasm, unable to bear or nurture children, probably unable to attract a life partner other than one similarly mutilated.
  • They are then left having to take for the rest of their life body damaging drugs to maintain their adopted gender.
To compound this criminality, the evidence is slowly accumulating that, especially for early interventions, the boys captured within the net are probably just future gay men if they were allowed to develop and many of the girls are on the spectrum, dealing with the social isolation and awkwardness that flows from that or subject to the same social contamination that brought about the Salem witch trials - especially in this time of social media.

And yet, many progressive states have criminal statute barriers to a proper mental health evaluation of a child because they deem it to be "conversation therapy".

All of this is in gross breach of the Nuremberg Code on medical experiments, and the legislation that many states have in reinforcing those principles - often with enhanced operation.

And yet people who, by the way they dismiss any objectors, clearly regard themselves as having superior empathy and intelligence, defend what is happening, acting as enablers of the whole process. Is it just because they restrict their sources of information to sources that only reinforce their own thought process or are they, to use an expression the Communists used in relation to Westerners who betrayed or undermined their own societies, the useful fools of this criminal cultist movement.
freedom and freedumb sound the same. one is better than the other. who get's to decide?
 

basketcase

Fuck you second amendment
4,410
1,304
a long way from home
It’s their job to fit in with normal social behaviors when in public and not behave in a look at me, look at me or face the same consequences any other ass clowning behavior receives , which is usually a get out of my face or ignore and avoidance. There are all sorts of people I am sure you avoid interacting with for the above criteria.
Fuck off.
 
Top