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[justsomeguy!]

The World's Abortion Laws - Center for Reproductive Rights

The World Abortion Laws Map is the definitive record of the legal status of abortion in countries across the globe. Since 1998, the Center for

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[phillysailor]

There is no such thing as abortion rights

Agreed. They are more properly termed “women’s rights” or just “human rights”

We will expect you to be using the proper terms in the future.

 

[veni vidi vici]

Agreed. They are more properly termed “women’s rights” or just “human rights”

We will expect you to be using the proper terms in the future.

Abortion is a medical procedure not a right!
The question is whether it is morally right, dismembering a living fetus.
My position is the same as Bill Clinton’s

 

[Gangbusters]

Please list the medical procedures a citizen of the USA is allowed. What about the procedures not allowed? Who gets to decide?

 

[justsomeguy!]

And that makes your position correct? Screw Bill Clinton!

 

[Marty Gingras]

Abortion is a medical procedure not a right!
The question is whether it is morally right, dismembering a living fetus.
My position is the same as Bill Clinton’s

Safe, legal, and rare. That'll do.

 

[veni vidi vici]

Safe, legal, and rare. That'll do.

And no later than 12 weeks

 

[Marty Gingras]

And no later than 12 weeks

Agreed there should be a limit and it's a moral thing. I lean toward basing a limit on viability, but of course with medical advancement that is getting progressively earlier. Twelve weeks is only 2 inches crown-to-rump.

 

[Olsonist]

Safe, legal, and rare. That'll do.

Safe, legal and whatever a woman wants to do with her own body.

 

[Marty Gingras]

Safe, legal and whatever a woman wants to do with her own body.

This is the only position I've seen of yours that I disagree with. On this, I'm not an absolutist. That's a digression though.

 

[Olsonist]

This is the only position I've seen of yours that I disagree with. On this, I'm not an absolutist. That's a digression though.

I don't see a government interest here. Women are really good judges, imperfect as we all are, of what's right. In actual fact, there isn't a competitive sport where women try to get as far into 8 months and then have an abortion just for the fun of it. That is a right wing fantasy.

Consequently, I think there doesn't need to be a law here and judging from the Dobbs decision, I see the attempts at this as Social Conservative nonsense. It reminds me of separate but equal, three fifths and other conservative monstrosities.

BTW, they don't even want birth control covered by health insurance because, you know, sky faerie.

 

[Marty Gingras]

I don't see a government interest here. Women are really good judges, imperfect as we all are, of what's right. In actual fact, there isn't a competitive sport where women try to get as far into 8 months and then have an abortion just for the fun of it. That is a right wing fantasy.

Consequently, I think there doesn't need to be a law here and judging from the Dobbs decision, I see the attempts at this as Social Conservative nonsense. It reminds me of separate but equal, three fifths and other conservative monstrosities.

BTW, they don't even want birth control covered by health insurance because, you know, sky faerie.

I totally hear ya and you are not wrong.

 

[Chris in Santa Cruz CA]

Safe, legal, and rare. That'll do.

And if not a pregnant woman or said woman’s attending physician it’s no one else’s business in any way. To me it only gets weird when the pregnant person is a child with whacko parents.

 

[billy backstay]

BTW, they don't even want birth control covered by health insurance because, you know, sky faerie.

They insist that the dirt poor welfare Mom bear the child, but will not lift a finger to help neither mother nor child once he or she is born. Cruel and unusual punishent IMHO.

 

[veni vidi vici]

Agreed there should be a limit and it's a moral thing. I lean toward basing a limit on viability, but of course with medical advancement that is getting progressively earlier. Twelve weeks is only 2 inches crown-to-rump.

And PLENTY of time to know if you are pregnant and not wanting a child

 

[Marty Gingras]

And PLENTY of time to know if you are pregnant and not wanting a child

Not sure about that, but awareness is certainly a factor that should be considered.

 

[billy backstay]

And PLENTY of time to know if you are pregnant and not wanting a child

More of your Total bullshit!!

Many women don't realize they are pregnant until after the mandatory date!

 

[veni vidi vici]

Not sure about that, but awareness is certainly a factor that should be considered.

If you are a women and having unprotected sex and you stop having your periods that is a big clue. Over the counter tests are readily available and if you can’t afford the kit there are county health clinics and women centers .

 

[bridhb]

If you are a women and having unprotected sex and you stop having your periods that is a big clue. Over the counter tests are readily available and if you can’t afford the kit there are county health clinics and women centers .

Are you sure you want someone, that is not aware enough to follow the good advice you gave above, to raise a child?

 

[veni vidi vici]

Are you sure you want someone, that is not aware enough to follow the good advice you gave above, to raise a child?

Adoption?
Sterilization?