Bus Driver
Bacon Quality Control Specialist
This has always stunned me. No abortions, ever. And, no birth control.
But, smaller, less intrusive government!
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But, smaller, less intrusive government!
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You are stunned by the Party of Lies doing yet again what they told us they were doing? I'm stunned anyone votes for any of those fascist assholes.
veni vidi vici
Omne quod audimus est opinio, non res. Omnia videm
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Yes .. each state can decide how abortion is treated for unwanted pregnancy
solosailor
Super Anarchist
Why are you against freedom for ALL women?
veni vidi vici
Omne quod audimus est opinio, non res. Omnia videm
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Gibberish
SloopJonB
Super Anarchist
Since you can't get pregnant, what do you think gives you the right to have any say in it?
Should women be given a say in you having a vasectomy?
SloopJonB
Super Anarchist
Good to see you have finally simplified your answers to their fundamental truth.
SloopJonB
Super Anarchist
You and your elk keeping your opinions to yourself and fucking off?
Marty Gingras
Mid-range Anarchist
We're trying to run a society here. Based on a moral assessment, we've decided it's usually not OK to kill folks who've been born. Discussion about the fate of fetus is reasonable based on much the same logic.
No. Also not analogous to the fetus question.
SloopJonB
Super Anarchist
It is exactly analogous - the other sex having a say in your personal reproductive rights.
Your personal opinion that a fetus is a person does not give you any political rights or say in a womans health choices.
Any more than Andrea Dworkin's opinion that a penis is an offensive weapon gave her the right to have you castrated.
Or that right wing God botherers have the right to determine what other people read - based on their "moral assessment".
It's all the same thing - someone giving themselves the right to determine how others live their lives.
Marty Gingras
Mid-range Anarchist
Play nice Sloop. I'm an atheist, have voted straight Democrat since first voting in 1980, have a life science degree, and have kids. If you can't convince me w/o playing nice, you're not the man I figured.
Your assertion is worth discussing, but the better analogy is this: SloopJonB can't opine about the legality of murder because SloopJonB hasn't been murdered.
This is a democracy and I do in fact have a political right to have a say in laws about abortion. It's a simple fact.
I'll look her up. My sense is that her argument would only be relevant if we were talking regulating hysterectomies or or not.
It's a slippery slope for sure.
Again, we are trying to run a society here. By definition, that means we all have a hand in how everyone else lives.
Your assertion is worth discussing, but the better analogy is this: SloopJonB can't opine about the legality of murder because SloopJonB hasn't been murdered.
This is a democracy and I do in fact have a political right to have a say in laws about abortion. It's a simple fact.
I'll look her up. My sense is that her argument would only be relevant if we were talking regulating hysterectomies or or not.
It's a slippery slope for sure.
Again, we are trying to run a society here. By definition, that means we all have a hand in how everyone else lives.
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Steam Flyer
Sophisticated Yet Humble
Bus Driver
Bacon Quality Control Specialist
If I may offer a slight edit - we all get the chance to offer our opinion (by vote) on how we believe everyone else lives. That does not mean I can expect to always get my way. The word "society" invokes community. Agreement/consensus/compromise is going to be involved.
Mrleft8
Super Anarchist
A man can make a decision to do pretty much anything he wants to with his body. He can elect to cut his balls off. He can elect to cut his arm off. He can elect to have his penis enlarged, or removed. A man can elect to have his spleen removed, his colon resected, and his eye balls altered surgically. A man can choose to have his toes removed, and replaced with a webbed prosthesis.
But a woman can't choose to abort a fetus that was implanted in her by a rapist/incestuous creep?
But a woman can't choose to abort a fetus that was implanted in her by a rapist/incestuous creep?
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Because Jesus.
billy backstay
Backstay, never bought a suit, never went to Vegas
Jesus or his Father, not sure which one???
Marty Gingras
Mid-range Anarchist
Totally agree.
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Whichever one has the most guns.
Marty Gingras
Mid-range Anarchist
You may be confusing me for a RWNJ, proffering a strawman, or just being pissy, but you'll have to clarify for me if you want me to respond with substance.