Twilight Race boat capsizes and hits King Harbor Pier

[Crash]

Anyone know the what the rest of the story is? Glad no one hurt badly...

http://ktla.com/2017/03/30/4-people-rescued-after-sailboat-capsizes-in-redondo-beach/

 

[RKoch]

Yikes. I'm completely unfamiliar with the harbor, but will comment that sailboats and breakers are a risky combination. Use care. Good thing they had life jackets on, and glad no serious injuries.

Edit: Looks like the breaking wave was only next to the pier. Before that they were adrift with just a luffing jib up. Here is video from another angle that shows more.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Isufp-6fudo

 

[ctutmark]

Looks like a Martin 242

 

[NORBowGirl]

Lost rudder? Not a good angle against the waves but the helmsman looks like he's trying to point better at them...?

 

[Movable Ballast]

Wow, Amazing no one was hurt.

We could all postulate what he/they should have done but Wow.

Make sure your motor works before heading out in shit like that.

 

[Blitz]

Ouch!! That is not going to buff out.

 

[RKoch]

More info:

http://www.foxla.com/news/local-news/245301159-story

According to the article, witnesses say they were leaving the harbor and never got the sails fully up. IDK why main isn't up...halyard broke? I'd guess the issue with the jib was that the flogging tangled the sheets and they couldn't trim it? I didn't see an OB...while sailing in and out a harbor entrance is fine, you do need to keep a bailout plan in the back of your mind, so that if an issue happens you aren't caught drifting into a more dangerous situation. It looks like prior to video they had at least one bailout option, and possibly could have anchored, depth permitting.

 

[Maxx Baqustae]

Looks like a Martin 242

That's what I thought myself Tut - a Martin 242 - as it was in the news last night. Other than cuts & bruises it sounds they are okay; not badly injured or worse. Seeing that on the boat talk about going pear shaped. Pretty scary.

 

[RKoch]

Lost rudder? Not a good angle against the waves but the helmsman looks like he's trying to point better at them...?

IDK if they had a rudder failure...unable to tell from videos. But with only a luffing jib they weren't going to be able to gain ground to windward even if rudder was ok. They didn't have enough forward speed to make rudder effective. Jib was only increasing the sideways drift.

 

[Maxx Baqustae]

Yup.....Martin 242 alright:



That is sooo scary! Very lucky they are still with us.

 

[Son of a Sailor]

Ouch!! That is not going to buff out.

+10?!?

 

[NORBowGirl]

Lost rudder? Not a good angle against the waves but the helmsman looks like he's trying to point better at them...?

IDK if they had a rudder failure...unable to tell from videos. But with only a luffing jib they weren't going to be able to gain ground to windward even if rudder was ok. They didn't have enough forward speed to make rudder effective. Jib was only increasing the sideways drift.

You are probably right. Hm, wonder if they thought "fuck, SA is going to have a field day when they see this"...

 

[Movable Ballast]

Rudder was fine, you can see it in the news footage as it goes over.

 

[skippermdj]

All alive. More info at this link: https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fc2_1490970417&comments=1

 

[RKoch]

Witnesses said they were leaving the harbor and never got the sails fully up. I looked up a map, and it appears that in the video they were heading (or attempting) to return to the harbor. Possibly some issue arose prior that made them turn back?

 

[mcsailor0303]

That's not fast.

 

[RKoch]

Lost rudder? Not a good angle against the waves but the helmsman looks like he's trying to point better at them...?

IDK if they had a rudder failure...unable to tell from videos. But with only a luffing jib they weren't going to be able to gain ground to windward even if rudder was ok. They didn't have enough forward speed to make rudder effective. Jib was only increasing the sideways drift.

You are probably right. Hm, wonder if they thought "fuck, SA is going to have a field day when they see this"...

they probably were thinking "fuck. Oh fuck."Looks like they were trying to get something going until the very end. Might have been safer to abandon the boat and jump into water a bit earlier. Tough call to make....but I think being in the water is preferable to being aboard a boat crashing into a concrete pier.

 

[Ajax]

A small anchor tossed off the bow might have prevented all that.

 

[Cwinsor]

Glad injuries were minor. Since we're all armchairing this one, I have to say that the level of onboard activity/urgency doesn't correlate to the situation they were in . Which makes me wonder about their experience in conditions like that.