Tyree Nichols

[phillysailor]

Do you live under a rock? If only it was just a poorly thought out slogan. Philadelphia, Minneapolis, New York, Portland, Los Angeles, Austin, Baltimore, Milwaukee, Minneapolis and...The Democratic administrations of cities across the country implemented this woke stupidity with entirely predictable results. Their naive war on police has led to rising crime that has primarily victimized the very communities they purport to care about.

The Democrat's woke war on cops, Antifa and the BLM scam are not forces for good.

The cops in some cities performed work slow-downs and changed their enforcing routines out of spite and displayed a sense of privilege which is commensurate with how police departments were started in America.

The Capitol Cops who defended our nations seat of government were fighting cops in the mob who broke the law with that same sense of privilege.

Just because you refuse to consider systemic racism and racism which exists in American policing doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It just means you want it to continue because it serves your agenda. If you can have it continue without active support, just tacit acceptance, all the better.

 

[veni vidi vici]

The cops in some cities performed work slow-downs and changed their enforcing routines out of spite and displayed a sense of privilege which is commensurate with how police departments were started in America.

The Capitol Cops who defended our nations seat of government were fighting cops in the mob who broke the law with that same sense of privilege.

Just because you refuse to consider systemic racism and racism which exists in American policing doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It just means you want it to continue because it serves your agenda. If you can have it continue without active support, just tacit acceptance, all the better.

Do you accept that there is and always will be a degree of “systemic racism “ across all cultures and ethnic groups, that simply is human nature and natural primal DNA.
It only becomes a problem when that “racism “ is a part of governance.
Just what is this “American policing “ systemic racism you are yacking about?

 

[phillysailor]

Do you accept that there is and always will be a degree of “systemic racism “ across all cultures and ethnic groups, that simply is human nature and natural primal DNA.
It only becomes a problem when that “racism “ is a part of governance.
Just what is this “American policing “ systemic racism you are yacking about?

When it kills citizens I think its a problem. What about you?

 

[veni vidi vici]

When it kills citizens I think its a problem. What about you?

Did you say or imply Memphis was anything close to policy ???
I am sure if you can make a medical analogy to what happened in Memphis to medical SOP’s you’ll be able to understand a wee bit better

 

[phillysailor]

The mayor had authorized the Scorpion unit to display aggression on the street to combat rising homicide rates and street racing. Stop and frisks, confrontational traffic stops and scared citizens was the result. Many complained, and are now reporting not feeling safe when the Scorpion Unit pulled them over.

So yeah, this became a policy that was tacitly accepted, just as I wrote above. Complacency in the face of aggressive and dangerous policing is all well and good if you can just say "a few bad seeds".

Dovetails with "lone wolf" and "guns don't kill people" or "otherwise law abiding gun owner kills 9" mentality. Incidents like this are an indictment of society.

 

[veni vidi vici]

The mayor had authorized the Scorpion unit to display aggression on the street to combat rising homicide rates and street racing. Stop and frisks, confrontational traffic stops and scared citizens was the result. Many complained, and are now reporting not feeling safe when the Scorpion Unit pulled them over.

So yeah, this became a policy that was tacitly accepted, just as I wrote above. Complacency in the face of aggressive and dangerous policing is all well and good if you can just say "a few bad seeds".

Dovetails with "lone wolf" and "guns don't kill people" or "otherwise law abiding gun owner kills 9" mentality. Incidents like this are an indictment of society.

Stretchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
No matter whatever
That event was hyenas like savagery , absolutely no justification,absolutely nothing to do with policing and if the mayor instructed as you stated the mayor should face charges or tossed out of office.
It is simply incomprehensible on any level and indefensible on any level

 

[Voyageur]

Do you accept that there is and always will be a degree of “systemic racism “ across all cultures and ethnic groups, that simply is human nature and natural primal DNA.
It only becomes a problem when that “racism “ is a part of governance.
Just what is this “American policing “ systemic racism you are yacking about?

those sworn to celibacy will often bugger little boys too. should we accept that? they have natural primal urges, so it's okey dokey, right? many trusted leaders of religious groups also, seem to have a problem with sexual crimes. so, it's only a problem when these types get into politics, right?

 

[veni vidi vici]

those sworn to celibacy will often bugger little boys too. should we accept that? they have natural primal urges, so it's okey dokey, right? many trusted leaders of religious groups also, seem to have a problem with sexual crimes. so, it's only a problem when these types get into politics, right?

Yeah go straight to the outlying examples
Loinfomofo’z are driving me nuts

 

[Voyageur]

Yeah go straight to the outlying examples
Loinfomofo’z are driving me nuts

Almost 1,700 priests and clergy accused of sex abuse are unsupervised

An Associated Press investigation found that those credibly accused are now teachers, coaches, counselors and also live near playgrounds.

www.nbcnews.com

i bet they are almost all white criminals

 

[veni vidi vici]

Almost 1,700 priests and clergy accused of sex abuse are unsupervised

An Associated Press investigation found that those credibly accused are now teachers, coaches, counselors and also live near playgrounds.

www.nbcnews.com

NBC is fake news

 

[veni vidi vici]

and you are the Truth?

Leap
Loinfomofo’z

 

[Blue Crab]

Reason articles are often maligned but here's a good one:

The Most Popular Police Reforms Can't Stop the Next Tyre Nichols From Being Killed. Here's What Might.​ ​ ​

ELIZABETH NOLAN BROWN​ ​

On Friday, the city of Memphis, Tennessee, released footage of five cops killing Tyre Nichols. The video is as appalling and heartbreaking as expected. (You know it's outrageous when even the National Fraternal Order of Police couldn't muster a defense.) The video shows the officers senselessly beating Nichols, who was ostensibly pulled over on a traffic stop, as the 29-year-old is utterly defenseless and compliant with their demands (at least, when these demands weren't completely impossible or contradictory). Now comes the part of the cycle where everyone calls for reforms. It's hard to look at a situation like this and think that anything could make a difference. Many popular reform ideas—hire more black cops, make police wear body cameras, give them better gun training, ban the use of chokeholds—aren't applicable. (The cops were black, they were wearing cameras, and they killed Nichols without using a chokehold or firing a bullet.) Perhaps policing just attracts psychopaths. Perhaps the culture of policing is just so bad that it turns ordinary men into monsters. Neither of those options seems like a problem fixable through mild reforms.​

But there are a few specific changes that could make a difference. Get rid of secretive "elite" policing units like the SCORPION squad. The officers who killed Nichols were part of Memphis' "Street Crimes Operation to Restore Peace in Our Neighborhoods" (SCORPION) squad, which was tasked with swarming crime "hot spots" and making pretextual traffic stops in order to try and stop or investigate serious crimes. "The SCORPION program has all the markings of similar 'elite' police teams around the country, assembled for the broad purpose of fighting crime, which operate with far more leeway and less oversight than do regular police officers," writes Radley Balko:​

Some of these units have touted impressive records of arrests and gun confiscations, though those statistics don't always correlate with a decrease in crime. But they all rest on the idea that to be effective, police officers need less oversight. That is a fundamental misconception. In city after city, these units have proven that putting officers in street clothes and unmarked cars‌, then giving them less supervision, an open mandate and an intimidating name shatters the community trust that police forces require to keep people safe.​

Units like these don't just suffer from a lack of transparency and use tactics likely to spawn violence. Their rhetoric attracts "police officers who enjoy being feared," Balko notes, and it positions these officers as both elite and beyond the normal rules. There are all sorts of horror stories about similar units, such as Detroit's STRESS unit ("Over a two-year period, the units killed at least 22 people, almost all of them Black") or Los Angeles' CRASH unit ("More than 70 officers were implicated in planting guns and drug evidence, selling narcotics themselves and shooting and beating people without provocation"). Memphis has now disbanded the SCORPION squad. Let's hope it stays disbanded. And let's hope other cities follow suit. Reduce the role of policing. The group DeCarcerate Memphis is calling for not just disbanding units like the SCORPION squad but getting cops out of traffic management in the first place and ending the use of unmarked cop cars. "These non-reformist reforms reduce the role and power of policing, rather than simply changing the colors of the people committing the harm," writes Guardian columnist Derecka Purnell. Stop buying police propaganda. The initial Memphis Police Department statement about Nichols' death bears little resemblance to the horror and brutality that five officers actually visited upon him. Here's how the department described the situation at first: "a confrontation occurred," and "afterward, the suspect complained of having a shortness of breath."​

How many police press releases will be written up as fact -no caveats and no scrutiny - by journalists across the country tonight? tomorrow? next week? https://t.co/se6VGhKqTN — Wesley (@WesleyLowery) January 28, 2023

This is far from the first time that police have drastically misrepresented the way things went down before surveillance footage or body camera videos showed that they weren't telling the truth. To distill this to its essence: Police lie. They lie to protect themselves. They like to give their activities a more noble sheen. They lie to dehumanize those they arrest or aggress against. And yet members of the media often take cops at their word and move on. Reporters routinely cite information from police press conferences or statements as the simple reality of a situation, with no questions asked, no corroboration, and no outside voices quoted. We see this not just in cases of police brutality, but in reporting on routine police stings and operations. (One area where I frequently see this is with "human trafficking stings.") People in general, and especially media, really need to stop taking police officers at their word. That doesn't mean members of law enforcement are never telling the truth. But there's no reason to believe they are more truthful than your average self-motivated individual. If people would stop placing a premium on police versions of events, it could, in some small way, help dismantle the conditions under which police feel they can get away with whatever they want. End qualified immunity. Another big thing empowering police to do what they want without fearing consequence is the doctrine of qualified immunity. Police need to know that they will face legal consequences when they do wrong.​

Do you accept that there is and always will be a degree of “systemic racism “ across all cultures and ethnic groups, that simply is human nature and natural primal DNA.

I sure do, and the argument against it is generally based in fantasy and magic.

 

[phillysailor]

Stretchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
No matter whatever
That event was hyenas like savagery , absolutely no justification,absolutely nothing to do with policing and if the mayor instructed as you stated the mayor should face charges or tossed out of office.
It is simply incomprehensible on any level and indefensible on any level

So therefore no one has to do anything, just charge them and move on?

So nice that the police academies, the judicial system, politicians and citizens don't have any responsibility to make this sort of outcome less likely.

 

[jzk]

So therefore no one has to do anything, just charge them and move on?

So nice that the police academies, the judicial system, politicians and citizens don't have any responsibility to make this sort of outcome less likely.

Of course we should be in a constant state of improvement. Your same concern is true of all crime, especially violent crime.

I like snowden's suggestion.

 

[Grrr...]

Of course we should be in a constant state of improvement. Your same concern is true of all crime, especially violent crime.

I like snowden's suggestion.

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As someone who relies on a pension fund, you are suggesting that if some psychopath in the same fund who I've never met or even know existed commits a crime, they should be able to wipe out part of my retirement? That's ignorant AND crazy.

 

[Fah Kiew Tu]

As someone who relies on a pension fund, you are suggesting that if some psychopath in the same fund who I've never met or even know existed commits a crime, they should be able to wipe out part of my retirement? That's ignorant AND crazy.

You have just affirmed why it would be a very strong motivator to keep the house clean. That shit that was glossed over? YOU are going to pay for walking on by.

Seems a great suggestion to me.

FKT

 

[Bus Driver]

Make the Union secure Liability Insurance. They can either pay for it with existing Union funds, or collect more in dues.

 

[Dog 2.0]

Make the Union secure Liability Insurance. They can either pay for it with existing Union funds, or collect more in dues.

I believe the teacher's union does that. Is that correct?

 

[Bus Driver]

I believe the teacher's union does that. Is that correct?

They do.

And, the likelihood of a teacher killing a student is exactly the same as a police officer killing a civilian. Happens at about the same frequency.

Are you trying to draw some equivalence between the insurance I suggested for police and the one I pay for?

Fuck me, but that is a stretch. Even for you.

 

[3to1]

NBC is fake news

sure it is, fuckwit.

denial won't help you...