Tyree Nichols

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I just can’t wrap my head around how this started and escalated. I find myself wondering if one or more of these cops might have had some kind of personal beef with the man they beat to death.
One of the first reports I read was the initial stop was by an unmarked which was brand new ... no dash cam yet. Then, a comment about someone's ex or ladyfriend.
 

Sol Rosenberg

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Possible but not at all necessary. Mr. Balko summarizes why in one sentence.

In city after city, these units have proven that putting officers in street clothes and unmarked cars‌, then giving them less supervision, an open mandate and an intimidating name shatters the community trust that police forces require to keep people safe.

It's really not a surprising result. I think these units are formed out of frustration with the ongoing failure of the stupid drug war. Like most everything else in that fiasco, they make things worse, not better. The SOLution, if I may, is to end the stupid drug war.
I get all that and I agree with it but why this guy? The gaslighting that the video documents, verbal commands clearly at odds with reality, repeated again and again as if they would come true (kinda like a Dog topic, but I digress). It makes me think that something about this particular guy was personal. Just a feeling.
 

MR.CLEAN

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I get all that and I agree with it but why this guy? The gaslighting that the video documents, verbal commands clearly at odds with reality, repeated again and again as if they would come true (kinda like a Dog topic, but I digress). It makes me think that something about this particular guy was personal. Just a feeling.
These secret drug enforcement task groups always seem to end up doing gang shit
 

Fakenews

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Depends on what you define as "these". "These" cops in Memphis? Of course not, but for the thousand or thereby large cities with dedicated OC units that aren't beating people to death for nothing you might have another think coming.
one would have thought that after your humiliating defense of the cowardly police in Ulave you’d ease back on your slavish devotion to the Blue…
 

MR.CLEAN

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one would have thought that after your humiliating defense of the cowardly police in Ulave you’d ease back on your slavish devotion to the Blue…
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silent bob

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The thing that gets me in cases like this is that the cops escalate nothing into a major incident, especially when it’s a totally innocent event. There’s no need for this! I’m sure the Scorpion Unit knows who is who in the Memphis Bad Guy world. The Erik Cantu case is another one. Cop thinks he spotted a car that got away from him the previous night. Call for back-up, but proceeds to approach the car, open the door and order the driver out. Teenage driver panics, takes off, cop shoots, hitting the teen causing major injuries. Had he waited for back up, there’s a strong likelihood that nothing would have occurred. Cowboy cop is fired and now facing assault charges. Teenage driver faces a lifetime of recovery. Citizens now face a very large settlement from the PD. We need better training and better supervision. It sounds like the Scorpion Unit had very little actual Supervision!
 

bowman81

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Pretty please
???
What did they do that was wrong?
If you even have to ask...

He was complying, it doesn't matter what the call was for. His hands were in clear view, he as respondng to commands and they just laid the boot in. It was their escalation of the situation that momentarily stopped him complying.

What did they do that was wrong. FFS
 

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If you even have to ask...

He was complying, it doesn't matter what the call was for. His hands were in clear view, he as respondng to commands and they just laid the boot in. It was their escalation of the situation that momentarily stopped him complying.

What did they do that was wrong. FFS
I disagree
 

veni vidi vici

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Great explanation, everything is perfectly clear now. My analysis of the situation was clearly wrong. Thanks for setting me straight
First we both are coming to a conclusion from only what the video shows.
But
Typical police don’t show up with a rifle, that tells there was a level or 2 upgrade in situation.
The perp had a GUN !
The gun was tossed and recovered according to the audio.
Police are trained to use overwhelming force, to the peanut gallery second guesser’s that is not just physical force but tone of commands and body language. If there is the slightest non compliance in a situation like that swift and certain actions must be taken.
The flat foot to the back as the perp tried to get out of the prone position is perfectly acceptable!
The poke with the barrel is perfectly acceptable.
Not sure how you think in those two actions I addressed should have been handled…. I anxiously await your enlightenment
 


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