Ukraine and Only Ukraine. If it isn't about Ukraine then fuck off

[Ease the sheet.]

Will be interesting if the rhetoric of the mad fuckers in Russia becomes less hysterical.

Time for the Russian population to see more doves and less hawks?

 

[dylan winter]

this is worth a watch - detailed stories of the 17 men murdered by R soldiers in one village

 

[Raz'r]

Her dad was fair game due to his Wagner links, not her. Or is every Russian who has been deluded by their media a viable military target? If so just abandon the moral high ground. We have no use for it, not any more than they do. The word terrorism is tossed around a lot these days, but what else can this sort of policy be labeled? This handed Putin a propaganda bonus, to convince his own people that they are up against ruthless monsters who kill women. Unhelpful.

Reminder, I believe it most likely this was an accident of targeting, that happens in war.

I don’t think it was terrorism. I think it was someone vying to take out a rival.

 

[Raz'r]

Is there a meaningful difference between Putin and a daughter of one of his people?

hell, it might have been Putin who had her killed. More likely a regime rival. Doubtful it was the Ukrainians, although I'm sure Putin and team will spin it that way.

 

[WhoaTed]

There’s a shed load of nato aircraft flying the borders today in Poland and Romania , really really busy

It’s interesting how “dark” they’ve gone over the past few weeks, most are now flying with ADS/etc off. Used to be at any given time you’d see a few tankers, a E-3 or two, a Rivet Joint, a RC-12X along the Lithuania/Belarus border, some Blackhawks, C-17’s and -130’s in and out of Rzeszow, Global Hawks flying across the Black Sea, etc…now, very little of anything broadcasting relative to February thru a few weeks ago.

 

[kent_island_sailor]

 

[Olsonist]

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I get what the button does but why would a civilian want to set their transponder to Standby?

 

[kent_island_sailor]

I get what the button does but why would a civilian want to set their transponder to Standby?

Well normally you don't, but the guys over near Ukraine are having fun

 

[MR.CLEAN]

Celebrating the assassination of a young woman because of her opinions...and/or who her father is is disgusting nonetheless.

to whom?

 

[Mark_K]

to whom?

Most.

 

[Clove Hitch]

I'll put her in the leopards-ate-my-face party. "Sure I dehumanized masses of people and advocated for violence on national TV, but I never thought someone would be violent toward ME!"

 

[Mark_K]

hell, it might have been Putin who had her killed. More likely a regime rival. Doubtful it was the Ukrainians, although I'm sure Putin and team will spin it that way.

No reports to be found that Dugin or his daughter were on the outs with Putin, and many reports they were working very hard to support the Special Military Clusterfuk in Ukraine. Why do you think Putin is a suspect?

 

[mikewof]

That would be... an insult... if it made sense.

Australia apparently still has Russian vodka shipments heading to that guy ... either that or the Bundy.

To your post, I agree, terrorism is terrorism, the target appeared to be her dad. Russia blames the Ukraine for it, but a Russian separatist group has taken credit for it.

 

[MR.CLEAN]

Most.

Most who?

 

[Olsonist]

No reports to be found that Dugin or his daughter were on the outs with Putin, and many reports they were working very hard to support the Special Military Clusterfuk in Ukraine. Why do you think Putin is a suspect?

Why does either have to be on the outs with Putin & Co in order for them to find it useful to kill her?
Putin isn't known as being a nice person.

 

[Mark_K]

Most who?

People.

 

[Mark_K]

Why does either have to be on the outs with Putin & Co in order for them to find it useful to kill her?

Putin being "them"?

 

[Olsonist]

Putin being "them"?

Yes, Putin & Co aren't known for being nice. He takes his lead from Stalin not Khrushchev.

 

[Raz'r]

No reports to be found that Dugin or his daughter were on the outs with Putin, and many reports they were working very hard to support the Special Military Clusterfuk in Ukraine. Why do you think Putin is a suspect?

In a game of thrones, all are suspect. How do you think the Ukrainians got to her? Not exactly in their backyard, and she's a secondary figure. Maybe she had a little side nookie and hubby wasn't happy, figured out a way to deflect the standard "The husband did it" focus?

 

[Mark_K]

Yes, Putin & Co aren't known for being nice. He takes his lead from Stalin not Khrushchev.

Khrushchev worse than Stalin? Putin has become so mad he is randomly knocking off his best friends?