Ukraine and Only Ukraine. If it isn't about Ukraine then fuck off

[LeoV]

Academics like Stephen Cohen, John Mearsheimer, the Grayzone bloggers and other pro-Russian propagandists refer (or referred) to the Baker-Gorbachev "agreement" all the time, stating that the US and NATO betrayed Russia's trust.

So here the text of the 1997 Founding Act on Mutual Relations, Cooperation and Security between NATO and the Russian Federation.
Try to find the promise...

Summary - Founding Act on Mutual Relations, Cooperation and Security between NATO ...

www.nato.int

 

[Ease the sheet.]

Where is the link Bitch?

Oh, so you don't have one? You are making shit up and been ...

Stanag.

Been mentioned upthread.

More reading, less bullshit.

 

[Marinatrix447]

Give em mwoar tanks, drones, bullets, planes, guns and most of all heaps of neo-con blessed fuunnnney muunnneeeey!

Bakhmut soonest falls... next-up comes the loss of Donbass...



But CNN, MSNBC, Googlie, Wiki and Snopes inform me that Russia and the evil dark lord that is Emperor Puta is losing, so any pro-ruskie-propaganda-shit is just anti-vaxxer conspiracy loon lies….?

[Yeah, that’s it in a nutshell]

But who’s tax do$$ar nuts are getting properly crushed is the more important question?

 

[Goodvibes]

Academics like Stephen Cohen, John Mearsheimer, the Grayzone bloggers and other pro-Russian propagandists refer (or referred) to the Baker-Gorbachev "agreement" all the time, stating that the US and NATO betrayed Russia's trust.

So here the text of the 1997 Founding Act on Mutual Relations, Cooperation and Security between NATO and the Russian Federation.
Try to find the promise...

Summary - Founding Act on Mutual Relations, Cooperation and Security between NATO ...

www.nato.int

Propaganda denial does not equal the facts. You are a bullshitter.​

Document No. 119: Record of Conversation between Mikhail Gorbachev and James Baker, February 9, 1990​

Baker again assures Gorbachev that “neither the President nor I intend to extract any unilateral advantages from the processes taking place,” and that the Americans understand the importance for the USSR and Europe of guarantees that “not an inch of NATO’s present military jurisdiction will spread in an eastern direction.” Gorbachev responds by quoting Polish President (and former dictator) Jaruzelski: “that the presence of American and Soviet troops in Europe is an element of stability.”

and que the bullshitter to come back with , yeah but that isn't blah blah fuckity boring blah.

 

[phill_nz]

Ukraine: military endangering civilians by locating forces in residential areas - new research​

Schools and hospitals used as military bases by Ukrainian forces

‘We have no say in what the military does, but we pay the price’ - resident in city of Bakhmut

‘Being in a defensive position does not exempt the Ukrainian military from respecting international humanitarian law’ - Agnès Callamard

that messy pos sort of fails on a couple of levels

1/ there have been no civilians and esp children in bakmut for months .. the rushtards have only been attacking bakmut for what .. 8 months or so .. maybe 10

2/ and more importantly .. the rushtards have no problems whatsoever killing kids and babies ... they just get a bit sad if they dont get to rape them first

 

[LeoV]

A flurry of reports from two border villages in the Bryansk region, ranging from reports of dozens of people taken hostage - to denials by local officials.

Russian sources say dozens of "Ukrainian saboteurs" have entered two villages in Bryansk Region and taken hostages there. Some say fighting ongoing, at least two locals including a child dead. Unlikely to be true, but can it be used as a pretext for an escalation?

The Security Council of the russian Federation has an emergency meeting now due to the alleged attack of "Ukrainian saboteurs" in the Bryansk region.

Is Putin gonna ask how "Ukrainian saboteurs" managed to hold school children hostage from the local school when Bryansk oblast has closed all schools and switched to online learning months ago?

False flag operation made by russians mostly turns to russian shit. Nothing new. Remember the SIM cards...

 

[LeoV]

Kerch bridge, after repairing the roads, now they start on repairing the damaged railroad section. One track still capable of carrying light loads.

Spoiler: Photo of section removed.

 

[phill_nz]

Bakhmut soonest falls... next-up comes the loss of Donbass...

yup only about 8 months for the lightening troops to storm that huge expanse ( must be dam near 40 sq ks )

But who’s tax do$$ar nuts are getting properly crushed is the more important question?

ahh that's an easy one
it is ripped directly from the pockets of the rushtards who would have pocketed it for themselves

 

[phillysailor]

Propaganda denial does not equal the facts. You are a bullshitter.​

Document No. 119: Record of Conversation between Mikhail Gorbachev and James Baker, February 9, 1990​

Baker again assures Gorbachev that “neither the President nor I intend to extract any unilateral advantages from the processes taking place,” and that the Americans understand the importance for the USSR and Europe of guarantees that “not an inch of NATO’s present military jurisdiction will spread in an eastern direction.” Gorbachev responds by quoting Polish President (and former dictator) Jaruzelski: “that the presence of American and Soviet troops in Europe is an element of stability.”

and que the bullshitter to come back with , yeah but that isn't blah blah fuckity boring blah.

And all that assumes Russia acted in a certain way as well.

But Russia has become a crime state, repeatedly violating international human rights laws and European security agreements on which these negotiations were based.

Be it assassination in foreign territories or invading Crimea in 2014, Russia has been a European menace and has no right to expect NATO to restrict its response to appeasement.

This was a tit-for-tat that progressed over decades. Putin has lost that overall battle and now you want to reset the clock.

Nah

 

[Remodel]

Propaganda denial does not equal the facts. You are a bullshitter.​

Document No. 119: Record of Conversation between Mikhail Gorbachev and James Baker, February 9, 1990​

Baker again assures Gorbachev that “neither the President nor I intend to extract any unilateral advantages from the processes taking place,” and that the Americans understand the importance for the USSR and Europe of guarantees that “not an inch of NATO’s present military jurisdiction will spread in an eastern direction.” Gorbachev responds by quoting Polish President (and former dictator) Jaruzelski: “that the presence of American and Soviet troops in Europe is an element of stability.”

and que the bullshitter to come back with , yeah but that isn't blah blah fuckity boring blah.

Can you provide a link where that "conversation" was codified in a treaty? People say reassuring things that aren't necessarily true and may not come to pass.

Don't worry, I won't cum in your mouth.

 

[Bristol-Cruiser]

On the other hand, the Taliban fought for 18 long years against superior forces. The Viet Cong managed to defeat Japan, France, Australia and the USA, etc. in the end.

The Taliban and VC/North Vietnamese were fighting for their own country as are the Ukrainians. This matters a lot. The US got out of Vietnam and Afghanistan when domestic opposition to these futile wars got to be too much. This will happen in Russia too in time. It could be a popular uprising or it could be someone in the inner circle with polonium tea or a 9 mm behind the ear.

 

[Bristol-Cruiser]

Goodvibes, what kind of boat do you sail on or own?

Your comment made me think that it is too bad that we do not have a requirement that you post a sailing resume before you can make posts on PA. This is supposed to be a site for sailors to discuss whatever and I wonder how many posters have just come here because they heard about the place somewhere else.

 

[kent_island_sailor]

Give em mwoar tanks, drones, bullets, planes, guns and most of all heaps of neo-con blessed fuunnnney muunnneeeey!

View attachment 577635
Bakhmut soonest falls... next-up comes the loss of Donbass...



But CNN, MSNBC, Googlie, Wiki and Snopes inform me that Russia and the evil dark lord that is Emperor Puta is losing, so any pro-ruskie-propaganda-shit is just anti-vaxxer conspiracy loon lies….?

[Yeah, that’s it in a nutshell]

But who’s tax do$$ar nuts are getting properly crushed is the more important question?

You need to get with Sluggo and help him out, you seem to be getting better propaganda than he can find lately.
You all doing this gratis, pay per post, or just day rate?

 

[Steam Flyer]

1994

1984

1812

This is fun!

 

[ShortForBob]

The Taliban and VC/North Vietnamese were fighting for their own country as are the Ukrainians. This matters a lot. The US got out of Vietnam and Afghanistan when domestic opposition to these futile wars got to be too much. This will happen in Russia too in time. It could be a popular uprising or it could be someone in the inner circle with polonium tea or a 9 mm behind the ear.

They were also fighting guerrilla style in mountains and jungle not in Potato fields

 

[ShortForBob]

1812

This is fun!

1854

 

[dacapo]

Kerch bridge, after repairing the roads, now they start on repairing the damaged railroad section. One track still capable of carrying light loads.

Spoiler: Photo of section removed.

id blow it up again

 

[Clove Hitch]

Can you provide a link where that "conversation" was codified in a treaty? People say reassuring things that aren't necessarily true and may not come to pass.

Don't worry, I won't cum in your mouth.

It's already been explained to him that according to the US Constitution some dude given a handshake Assurance is not a treaty. Only the Senate can ratify a treaty. He just ignored that like he is ignored all the other facts.

 

[LeoV]

About the attack on the Awac, that plane left the airfield today.
Here the slow drone attack..

 

[slug zitski]

Give em mwoar tanks, drones, bullets, planes, guns and most of all heaps of neo-con blessed fuunnnney muunnneeeey!

View attachment 577635
Bakhmut soonest falls... next-up comes the loss of Donbass...



But CNN, MSNBC, Googlie, Wiki and Snopes inform me that Russia and the evil dark lord that is Emperor Puta is losing, so any pro-ruskie-propaganda-shit is just anti-vaxxer conspiracy loon lies….?

[Yeah, that’s it in a nutshell]

But who’s tax do$$ar nuts are getting properly crushed is the more important question?

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