Ukraine and Only Ukraine. If it isn't about Ukraine then fuck off

Drunkonwatch

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Sorry but I want war decisions made by someone a little more sophisticated in international relations than a retired tanker.

Your right opinions of noncom tankers who trained for the Cold War retiring from deploying those same m1 Abrams after decades of war know way less than grandpa sleepy train rider.
 

phill_nz

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Hope this goes ok I was an M1a2 crewman for two tours in Iraq. They breakdown a lot, they are heavy get stuck really easy, and that Far East the roads are narrow. Hopefully they will have the full support of general dynamics and not left hanging without all the civilian oversight.
what areas are / were the main problems and have they been addressed
 

d'ranger

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Your right opinions of noncom tankers who trained for the Cold War retiring from deploying those same m1 Abrams after decades of war know way less than grandpa sleepy train rider.
Biden is intelligent enough to make sure those in charge know more than he does and you. Denigrating Biden ain't making you look smart at all.

Keep it up and you win a place on my ignore list.
 

Drunkonwatch

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The pull out of afganny was brilliant talk about getting pissed on if you had time spent there. Sorry for putting Biden down picking on the geriatric ain’t cool.
 

Drunkonwatch

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just hope it don’t hurt over seas sales deploying the M series I mean look at the buyers remorse India must have hate to see the Saudi feel the same way lol there more on the tank video game than janes lol
 

LeoV

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The Patriot is a highly complex system to operate, and typically takes U.S. soldiers up to a year to learn. But after just a few weeks, the Ukrainians were already able to independently set up and operate the system against a simulated threat in under 45 minutes, which is the U.S. Army’s standard. They complete this “culminating event” two or three times a day to get in as much practice as possible before heading back to Europe, according to one U.S. trainer.

Once the Ukrainians wrap up instruction in Fort Sill in the next few days, they will head to an undisclosed location in Europe to join another group of trainees who are completing a parallel course with the Dutch and German militaries, said Army spokesperson Col. Martin O’Donnell. There, they will complete final checks on the two donated Patriot systems, one from the U.S. and one combining components from Germany and the Netherlands, before heading back to Ukraine with the new equipment in the coming weeks.


First time I hear Dutch are training them on Patriot too. Now I understand the Dutch general who said weeks ago training would only last 6 weeks.
 

Drunkonwatch

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fine platform just have to feel for them in the spring in one that’s all. Highly automotive designs but the best. It would bring a great joy to my heart to think our old tank took the life of an orc. Glowing like a proud parent I will be lol
 
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Frogman56

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Some speculation here in OZ about the carrots and sticks available and preferred by XI & co......

Xi has invested some credibility in brokering an improvement; he might want a nice Belt & Road corridor through UKR, which would require certain things..... and a strong RUS probably not in his interests either.

Ideas anyone?

PRC capable of walking both sides of many roads, in our experience.
 

spankoka

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Yes, the Belt and Road rail was link was to go through Ukraine due to Ukraine still having Russian gauge. However, the Ukrainian plan is to rebuild with standard gauge. Aside from the break of gauge, there's apt to be some sort of DMZ someday between Russia and Ukraine rather than a border goods and people go across.
 



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