Ukraine and Only Ukraine. If it isn't about Ukraine then fuck off

SloopJonB

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I’m always intrigued why folks with military experience always think they’d be better at foreign policy than anyone else in the room.

Banging in some nails doesn’t make you a carpenter, and carpenters can’t design a cathedral.

Not a perfect analogy, but ya gotta be able to demonstrate relevant prior experience before you’re in charge of big projects.
No, no, no - a retired non-com tanker is a true expert at commanding warfare.

I mean if you can drive or load a tank, you should be able to steer a nation through a war - no?
 

Olsonist

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I only need to find one to refute an unqualified claim.

But generally I agree with you though WW2 with unconditional surrender is kind of marginal. There weren't any negotiations to speak of.

FKT
I wouldn't find that to be a profitable bet. Quoting one of my faves, people tend to overvalue wagers involving low probability of high gain and undervalue wagers involving high probability of low gain. You'd lose a LOT of money making that bet before it paid off.
 

Drunkonwatch

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Sorry lot here it’s kinda sad now I’m a false representation. Eat a big pile of shit sorry I had an opinion let the real masters of the universe converse. Sorry turds to have questioned your great withered leader. Do you realize how sad you all are. Be
 

Drunkonwatch

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No, no, no - a retired non-com tanker is a true expert at commanding warfare.

I mean if you can drive or load a tank, you should be able to steer a nation through a war - no?

what a load of crap is it fun just to start pack attacking people online how boring. Won’t comment again if it’s such a problem. Sorry ass bitches.
 
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barfy

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I have to counter with some propaganda,
edit: those folk don't look like actors to me.
 

Steam Flyer

Sophisticated Yet Humble
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I only need to find one to refute an unqualified claim.

But generally I agree with you though WW2 with unconditional surrender is kind of marginal. There weren't any negotiations to speak of.

FKT
Not really, no... but there was a lot of work by various non-military gov't types, finding and credentialling a German gov't to take the surrender of. My reading mostly says Doenitz had no ambition to be the big boss and felt he was picked by Patton as a fall guy (the Germans had the idea Patton was much more important than he really was). He was also outraged to be charged with war crimes afterward.
 

kent_island_sailor

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Not really, no... but there was a lot of work by various non-military gov't types, finding and credentialling a German gov't to take the surrender of. My reading mostly says Doenitz had no ambition to be the big boss and felt he was picked by Patton as a fall guy (the Germans had the idea Patton was much more important than he really was). He was also outraged to be charged with war crimes afterward.
Adm. Donitz was, briefly, the president of Germany. Technically it was in that capacity he arranged the surrender, not as a military commander.
 


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