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All this talk about aircraft ... so last century.
https://www.businessinsider.com/fighter-jets-unable-to-provide-close-air-support-over-ukraine-2023-3

Fighter jets are 'worthless' over Ukraine, and it's a sign of what US pilots and troops may face in future battles

After a year of fighting, neither the Russian nor Ukrainian air forces have been able to take control of the skies over Ukraine. This has severely limited the role that fighter jets have played in the conflict, and it's a preview of what US troops could face in the future, US Air Force officials say.

While Russian and Ukrainian aircraft are still active, each side's air-defense weapons — such as major Soviet-era anti-aircraft systems like the S-300 or newer shoulder-fired missiles like the US-made Stinger — have forced the other to make tactical adaptations, such as launching less-accurate rocket attacks from longer ranges rather than sending aircraft to provide close air support over the front lines.

Ukraine is estimated to have lost more than 60 aircraft and Russia more than 70, according to Gen. James Hecker, the commander of US Air Forces in Europe. Hecker told reporters at the Air and Space Forces Association symposium this month that Russia's larger air force still has jets it could devote to the war, as does Ukraine, but both face an issue.
 

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All this talk about aircraft ... so last century.
https://www.businessinsider.com/fighter-jets-unable-to-provide-close-air-support-over-ukraine-2023-3

Fighter jets are 'worthless' over Ukraine, and it's a sign of what US pilots and troops may face in future battles

After a year of fighting, neither the Russian nor Ukrainian air forces have been able to take control of the skies over Ukraine. This has severely limited the role that fighter jets have played in the conflict, and it's a preview of what US troops could face in the future, US Air Force officials say.

While Russian and Ukrainian aircraft are still active, each side's air-defense weapons — such as major Soviet-era anti-aircraft systems like the S-300 or newer shoulder-fired missiles like the US-made Stinger — have forced the other to make tactical adaptations, such as launching less-accurate rocket attacks from longer ranges rather than sending aircraft to provide close air support over the front lines.

Ukraine is estimated to have lost more than 60 aircraft and Russia more than 70, according to Gen. James Hecker, the commander of US Air Forces in Europe. Hecker told reporters at the Air and Space Forces Association symposium this month that Russia's larger air force still has jets it could devote to the war, as does Ukraine, but both face an issue.
what astonishes me is the importance of tree cover.... I wonder about evergreen tree strips with killing zones in between apearing along disputed borders. around the world. The re-emergence of leaves this spring will change the dynamic.

as an aside the spring wild flowers in the bomb craters will be most attractive - soil disturbance plus nitrate residues will produce some spectacular displays.
 

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why am I getting the impression that the 24/7 firehose of russkie propaganda is trying to condition the russian populace to the idea, then eventual implementation of, nuclear weapons?

what I'm saying is I wouldn't be surprised (but would be very shocked) if those dirty motherfuckers actually went there.

I get nuclear blackmail/saber rattling, but why can't I shake this hunch that feels significantly more sinister?

I agree, it looks like the conflict may be ended by someone getting a bigger hammer.

Kinda like the US nuc'ing two japanese cities full of civilians? Like that you mean?
 

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All this talk about aircraft ... so last century.
https://www.businessinsider.com/fighter-jets-unable-to-provide-close-air-support-over-ukraine-2023-3

Fighter jets are 'worthless' over Ukraine, and it's a sign of what US pilots and troops may face in future battles

After a year of fighting, neither the Russian nor Ukrainian air forces have been able to take control of the skies...

So, this is more self-important blah-blah from the guy(s) who said that tanks are obsolete? And aircraft carriers?

We'll see.
 
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