Ukraine and Only Ukraine. If it isn't about Ukraine then fuck off

d'ranger

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Good article explaining the success of Ukraine forces against a larger and better equipped foe https://www.businessinsider.com/ukr...fighting-russia-with-logistical-limits-2023-5

Eight years of warfare taught the Ukrainians that a major Russian invasion would put extreme pressure on their logistics and that resupply of frontline units would be difficult, so the training provided by the US and other NATO countries has focused on the basics.

A well-trained force that excels in small-unit tactics and other basic military skills has an advantage over a larger but poorly trained adversary.

Ukrainian special operators knew from the beginning that they would be operating against a bigger adversary, and they tailored their tactics and training to meet that challenge.

What that means on the ground is that Ukrainian commandos have been ensuring that they have good intelligence and fire superiority — even if it is temporary — when conducting an operation. Even if the Russians have numerical superiority, a well-planned raid based on timely intelligence conducted by a well-trained force will likely succeed.
Ensuring smooth logistics in a large conventional war isn't easy. Even the US military has acknowledged that in a fight with China, it would face logistical difficulties and have limited ability to resupply its forces.

Fortunately for Ukrainian special operators, their supply lines are short — they are fighting on their home turf, after all. As a result, the Ukrainians are able to resupply their units much easier than the Russians, whose resupply efforts have been made more difficult by Ukraine's deadly accurate long-range missile and artillery strikes.

Moreover, Russia lacks air superiority or consistent long-range precision fires, which are needed to attack Ukrainian logistical nodes reliably. A cruise missile or Shared-136 drone might get through and hit a railway line or ammunition depot, but Ukrainian air-defense systems have been highly effective against Russian aerial wave attacks.

That doesn't mean the Ukrainians have it easy. "The main thing you hear on the front lines is the Ukrainian military, like any large force in a big war, has internal distribution problems," Michael Kofman, an expert on the Russian military at CNA, said on a podcast in early March, shortly after returning from a research trip to Ukraine.
 

Mark_K

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Having the same aims and cooperating aren't necessarily the same thing...
True, hence the adage "War makes strange bedfellows." The Russians have a different opinion about the ME, one shared by Assad and El-Sisi, among others. We believe that the key to everything is democracy. Put that in and, why, a George Washington will spring up and turn the region into something like Texas less burritos. So we supported the Arab Spring. Revolutions to overthrow the existing governments so they would be just like us.

The others I mentioned, on the other hand, believe that in their region Islam is the only unifying force within their societies and the religious fundies are the best fighters, so democracy results in things like the Muslim Brotherhood and other fundies taking control of the process, which as first order of business end democracy. This is supported from the outside by the powerful Saudis, who still dream of installing the same kind of Wahabi salifist run government they have through the Levant and beyond. Our support for regime change in, for instance, Syria, actually put us on the same side as the Muslim Brotherhood and AQ, the best fighters...so perhaps the Russians have it right on that one.

The Russian fear Islamic fundamentalism as much or more than we do.
 

hasher

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Well, looks like the French Open fans support the wrong side in this war...


The beautiful thing was her new conference afterwards. She's very articulate and described what it was like to enter Ukraine recently to visit her family. She's heard the explosions and seen the damage first hand. And she's right, the boo babies will all regret their actions in time.
 

d'ranger

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If it were not tragically happening to be an important geo-strategic location I suspect Yeltsin et al would've let it go. For that matter, Peter the Great wouldn't have bothered with it in the first place.
This is my last off topic response - it was Putin who set up the false flag bombing of the apartment buildings to justify the invasion thus making him the hero. Think 9/11. Now back to Ukraine.
 

LeoV

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I question your sobriety because you can't remember what I wrote just a few posts ago. I question your character because your primary method of argument is ad-hominem, Leo, which is juvenile.
When presented with factual rebuttals and asked for facts, propagandists deflect and attack a person.
 

Olsonist

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If it were not tragically happening to be an important geo-strategic location I suspect Yeltsin et al would've let it go. For that matter, Peter the Great wouldn't have bothered with it in the first place.
How was Chechnya important geostrategically? I think Yeltsin was like LBJ and W the Stupid and Putin thinking it would be easy and it would make him a heroic and popular leader. Strategic? What, in case Georgia or Azerbaijan attacked?
 

Mark_K

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How was Chechnya important geostrategically? I think Yeltsin was like LBJ and W the Stupid and Putin thinking it would be easy and it would make him a heroic and popular leader. Strategic? What, in case Georgia or Azerbaijan attacked?
Land bridge to the central part of the ME. Possible flanking position against Ottoman Empire back in Peter The Great's day....before it became the Oil Patch.
 

barfy

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Which is precisely what you are doing to me. Constantly trying to assert I am taking Russia's side instead of addressing the issue. I'm not going to let that bullshit slide anymore, Leo. Knock it off.
Incidental war crimes from Russia....
 

Fakenews

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Which is precisely what you are doing to me. Constantly trying to label me as pro Russian instead of addressing the issue. I'm not going to let that bullshit slide anymore, Leo.
Knock it off.
Most reasonable people here have you accurately pegged as pro autocrat. You’re a fan boi regardless of the stripe. In this case you are pro Putin and the invasion. You don’t give a shit about Russians except for the war effort.

You have terrible takes on everything from George Floyd, to the cowardly Uvalde cops to the Memphis police.

Its troubling.
 

Go Left

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Will the New Zealand Defence Force be sending any military supplies or fighters to Ukraine or will their "support" be limited to making silly faces, sticking out their tongues and shouting threats they have no intention of carrying out?

Oooooh... Well said from behind a keyboard in Tennessee!

Don't let the drag queens getcha.
 



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