Ukraine and Only Ukraine. If it isn't about Ukraine then fuck off

[Keith]

 

[SloopJonB]

WTF is an "adversary air contractor"?

Is that legalese for "mercenary"?

 

[Tax Man]

WTF is an "adversary air contractor"?

Is that legalese for "mercenary"?

They fly "bad guy" tactics and profiles for air force ACM training.
Think of the A4 pilots in the original Top Gun, but with civilian pilots instead of navy instructors.

 

[longy]

^^ Faster typing wins again. They have a variety of aircraft and put up airframes that can simulate enemy aircraft performance/tactics for training against

 

[MR.CLEAN]

egyptian shark eats russian draft dodger. brutal!

 

[LeoV]

So Ukr is on the attack, not on a big scale, but probing and capturing higher points.
It is fucked up that they have to do it with almost no air support.

Good luck, slava Ukraine.

 

[Lark]

They fly "bad guy" tactics and profiles for air force ACM training.
Think of the A4 pilots in the original Top Gun, but with civilian pilots instead of navy instructors.

What is the argument for using civilians, beside the ability to privatize the profits from US defense spending (and reduce the number of fighter plane qualified pilots in the service, should we face a real war)?

 

[Raz'r]

So Ukr is on the attack, not on a big scale, but probing and capturing higher points.
It is fucked up that they have to do it with almost no air support.

Good luck, slava Ukraine.

Air support would require suppression of anti-air assets. That's a heavy lift. More so than a few planes. Unless you want to watch all your close-air-support assets get shot down.

 

[Tax Man]

What is the argument for using civilians, beside the ability to privatize the profits from US defense spending (and reduce the number of fighter plane qualified pilots in the service, should we face a real war)?

Speculating here:
I think this is much more for the smaller countries than for the USA.

To run a "red team" with uniformed pilots requires that you have both the dissimilar airframes and qualified people to fly them. The US can fly 15/16/18/22/35 against each other for training, nobody else has more than 2 (and usually only 1) platform.

Canada does not have enough pilots to fully staff the single type of fighter, we can't staff another type.

 

[LeoV]

USAF uses contractor trainers for a while already, cost effective.

 

[Ishmael]

 

[Voyageur]

egyptian shark eats russian draft dodger. brutal!

that fish is going to die from alcohol poisoning.

 

[kent_island_sailor]

WTF is an "adversary air contractor"?

Is that legalese for "mercenary"?

No. They are not fighting, they are supplying Red Team pilots and aircraft.

 

[Ishmael]

 

[Ishmael]

China neutral? I guess not.

 

[Dervish]

What is the argument for using civilians, beside the ability to privatize the profits from US defense spending (and reduce the number of fighter plane qualified pilots in the service, should we face a real war)?

They don’t have to be reassigned every 18-36 months. Or promoted.

One of the soldiers in my platoon went to work as a Bradley IFV trainer. That’s all he did, for 12 years.

 

[Dervish]

“Multiple Ukrainian Officials have told the Washington Post that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have begun their Long-Anticipated Offensive against the Occupying Russian Forces in the East of the Country, with NATO-Equipped and Trained Units being used as the “Tip of the Spear” to break through their Defensive-Lines.”


https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1666788460961714176

 

[LeoV]

Check source if you post stuff from sentdefender. It is a questionable source.

 

[Ex Machina]

^^ Faster typing wins again. They have a variety of aircraft and put up airframes that can simulate enemy aircraft performance/tactics for training against

Happens a lot off the coast of Norfolk . At times there will be a mess of UK and US aircraft playing silly buggers with a company who’s name escapes me

 

[Sol Rosenberg]