Was, maybe not is. Same thing happened to us in Nam. Remember "peace with honor"?So at least on paper the US was "bringing democracy" to Iraq and Afghanistan. Equating Putin and Ukraine is a big fail since his goal was and is to wipe Ukraine off the map and make it Russian. The war drums for Iraq woke me from my political slumber although not many listened to me at the time. These people also believe we could have won in Vietnam if we had just killed enough people.