Dervish
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Not a good analogy at all. Nor worth exploring. This is Putin’s doing, in the end.
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Dervish
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What is the source of this video? Context?
MagentaLine
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Wtf... Is this forum now the new ogrish?
The_Alchemist
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No I didn't.
Your premise was so ridiculous that it didn't make the point that you wanted.
The original argument was if Putin ordered a nuclear strike, would it be carried out by the individuals that have to press the button and fly the planes. I said no. I think there are individuals along the line that would realize they would be destroying the world. All of their families, grandchildren, parents, civilization, etc.. There are too many obvious way out of the situation without going to that extreme.
And, as I pointed out before, there is an actual example of where the US had checks and balances in place to stop a crazy US leader from making such orders. These types of orders would only happen if it was the only alternative, with no other way out of the situation.
As for your premise, the idea that Texas was on the verge of destroying a large US force assumes that the US would send in a large force to "take back" Texas. The parts of Texas that prospers is because it is a part of the US and not because it is Texas. The economies and cultures within the US all succeed because they have the universal consumer base of the US. No states out side of California or possibly NY have a large enough "independent" economic base to be able to possibly survive on their own.
Somewhere in Russia apparently. Found it on twitter a while back. I think it was posted by a NAFO account.
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Mark_K
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You missed the point because you are unable to imagine the US being in anything like the condition I described, or are unable to discern the difference between an imaginary scenario and an analysis of the existing conditions.
If you think we might not be desperate enough to do just about anything if a clearly superior power was involving itself on wars on borders, how do you account for the Cuban Missile Crisis?
estarzinger
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mmmm . . . . texas GDP would place it as the 8th or 9th country in the world. And oil and tech are rather easy to sell on the world market.
It does ofc prosper in large part because of its connection to the rest of the US, but it is possible (for some with an extreme viewpoint) to imagine it maintaining a sufficient economic connection while being politically separate - much like brexit was imagined by its supporters.
In actual practice OFC that would be extremely hard to pull off smoothly and peacefully. And there is a rather good chance inho that it would draw a significant federal government response if it ever went beyond the idle chatter stage.
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Sailbydate
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Prominent Russian military blogger killed in cafe blast
Explosion in a St Petersburg cafe kills a blogger with 560,000 followers on Telegram, Russian news agencies say.
barfy
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I couldn't find the purple button.
And the fact that you mention the war was/is the result of one large ego and empire building...well in that light it could happen anywhere. The right kind of nationalist/fascist in the US could decide taking a resource rich country would be a good idea. Even if it hadn't worked well in the past.
Iraq 2.0?
The_Alchemist
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Your whole analysis was imaginary based upon ridiculous assumptions. I started to write an in depth rebuttal, but it isn't worth it.
The_Alchemist
Super Anarchist
I think and hope this whole fascist fade that is spreading around the world is fading quickly.
Keith
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Keith
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Putin’s Russia Is Going Broke Fast. Here’s Why.
While you may not have been looking, Europe stopped buying Russian oil and gas. And that’s just for starters.
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It's like someone dropped a drone bomb right on him. 200 g isn't that much unless you're holding it.
Sailbydate
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Blew him from arsehole to breakfast, as they say. So sad. Never mind.
phill_nz
Super Anarchist
its a little bit more than is in most hand grenades
enigmatically2
Super Anarchist
Yep, but also only just more than in thunderflashes, it depends on the shrapnel around the explosive. Obviously good enough in this case.
enigmatically2
Super Anarchist
Though looking at the pictures of the damage in the cafe, it looks like more than 200g of explosive to me, even allowing for the confined space
