Ultime / G-Class Development

Foiling Optimist

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Excited for Gabart and team. IDEC is back in Europe, having set the Hong Kong-London record in February, so perhaps there will be six Ultimes for the Transat Jacques Vabre. I have to say though, trimaransvrlazartigue doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

 
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yl75

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Without the "trimaran" prefix a bit better :)  :

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPZ7lpinE4D/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

When clicking on the pic in the instagram post :

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The name could have been longer !

 
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yl75

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Some construction pics of Gabart's tri in the last voiles&voiliers :

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Top left one on the third page is quite impressive : just a few holes to get your head out !

 

NZK

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Top left one on the third page is quite impressive : just a few holes to get your head out !
I hadn't noticed this from the renderings in the PR release - looks like a Hugo Boss style fully enclosued approach - on the renderings there appears to be a forward looking windscreen just aft of the mast base plus those trimming capsules in the roof. 

 

yl75

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I hadn't noticed this from the renderings in the PR release - looks like a Hugo Boss style fully enclosued approach - on the renderings there appears to be a forward looking windscreen just aft of the mast base plus those trimming capsules in the roof. 
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Don't see that windscreen, the front arm ?

But on that rendering I get the impression that the "cockpit/center of the rear arm" could have been lowered a bit.

A pic from the inside :

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Will be quite a work out to go up on deck !

For Alex the key reasons were protection and center of gravity/weight considerations, here I think it's protection but mostly aerodynamics considerations, major modifications on Gitana also have been aero related.

 
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NZK

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Don't see that windscreen, the front arm ?
I was referring to the instagram pic from your post at the top of this page, it looks like thers a dark windscreen just aft of the mast in that colourised image.

Totally agree it's likely primarily aero focussed design, most of the ultimes seem to be heavily optimising the aero packages so any new boats should be ahead of the curve with more integration. Except Sodebo where Colville still sticks his head out of the sunroof like a labrador out of a car window.....

It looks like Gabart's new boat has the cockpit lowered into the main hull so it's flush between the fore and aft beams, that's a big reduction in drag and should allow some very good end-plating of the mainsail.

 

yl75

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It looks like Gabart's new boat has the cockpit lowered into the main hull so it's flush between the fore and aft beams, that's a big reduction in drag and should allow some very good end-plating of the mainsail.
Indeed they should get a good end plate effect, but it looks to me they could have done more in lowering the cockpit, but I'm sure there are other considerations such as lines routing, with the tensions on these things, it probaly brings some serious constraints.

 

Floating Duck

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Gitana training UFO incident. Main rudder gone and central hull damage. Sounds pretty major. Back home for repairs. 

http://www.gitana-team.com/en/article.aspx?id=0&type=actu
I don't get it. 

How do they keep designing these things WITHOUT expecting to hit stuff. Yes they may be heavier, slightly slower, etc etc 

But F1 cars could also be much faster, but you know, safety and cost...

Also PSA, let's stop throwing our trash out everywhere  -_-

 

JonRowe

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Speaking of Ultimes, The MOD 70 Powerplay managed to beat IDEC and Actual for the line honours in the "Round The Island" (round Isle of Wight) race, I guess for an Ultime this is "short course" racing and not their forte?

 

TPG

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I don't get it. 

How do they keep designing these things WITHOUT expecting to hit stuff. Yes they may be heavier, slightly slower, etc etc 

But F1 cars could also be much faster, but you know, safety and cost...

Also PSA, let's stop throwing our trash out everywhere  -_-
4 knot shit boxes suffer structural damage running into things, you expect them to build up a 40 knot tri to withstand impacts? If anything you want to build the structures sacrificial so the boat survives to sail another day.

 

Lakrass

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Supposedly live on Instagram right now with hangar door opening at 10AM (CET) and they put the boat in the water at 12PM but couldn't find any video. They have short bits on Instagram but nothing like a live video (except if the first part is over already, will have another look in 1h30).

Here is the link to their page if anyone is interested:
https://www.instagram.com/trimaransvrlazartigue/channel/

 


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