US ranked #1 to best deal with a disease outbreak

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Didn't you consider that perhaps your yay team moment, might be a bit premature? Three weeks from now, you could be in a warehouse, getting care from one nurse per125 patients, while laying on a cot.
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Nope. The study deals with all kinds of factors. The sum total shows that the US is the most prepared nation on earth.  As a US citizen I was happy to learn the country is prepared.  The headline was in response to the hyperbole expressed in many threads claiming the exact opposite.  
There is no telling where this will lead, but the country, according to this study has the ability to deal with it better than has been predicted. 

 
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Nope. The study deals with all kinds of factors. The sum total shows that the US is the most prepared nation on earth.  As a US citizen I was happy to learn the country is prepared.  The headline was in response to the hyperbole expressed in many threads claiming the exact opposite.  
There is no telling where this will lead, but the country, according to this study has the ability to deal with it better much than has been predicted. 
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Thanks Obama!

Dude, much of the derision is in response to Trump's moronic comments, creating the position of Corona Virus Ministry of Propaganda for VP Pence. Coupled with Trump's efforts to cut crucial services while running an administration stocked with a bunch of temps while blaming everything on the D's.

It's the Clown Car in action.

edit: Just in case you haven't noticed by now, you aren't very good at this.

 
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benwynn said:
Trump proposed CDC cuts, but they didn't happen.  Congress basically ignored his ass and increased funding.
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Correct. 
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So, if your boy had his way, what would that have done for the preparedness?

Of course, he does own the firing and non-replacement of the folks who would've been involved - 

It is also true that in 2018 the Trump administration fired key officials connected to the U.S. pandemic response, and they were not replaced.

Also in 2018, news reports circulated about an 80% reduction in the CDC’s program that worked in various countries to fight epidemics. That was the result of the anticipated depletion of previously allotted funding. “Countries where the CDC is planning to scale back include some of the world’s hot spots for emerging infectious disease, such as China, Pakistan, Haiti, Rwanda and Congo,” the Washington Post reported in 2018.

The fact that epidemic prevention-efforts were scaled back in China gained new significance in February 2020 as coronavirus spread globally after it was first detected in Wuhan, China, in late 2019.

U.S. legislators in late February were discussing billions of dollars in funding for coronavirus response.

Did President Trump Cut the CDC Budget?

 
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What that article doesn't say is whether the data was taken before or after Trumpy's cuts to CDC and Pandemic Response teams. 
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Keep repeating the lie.  The cuts were to other types of chronic diseases which have plenty of funding from a lot of sources.  The CDC was told to concentrate on communicable diseases,

The Flue Surveillance Program has been around for years and was not cut.  Where a disease shows up outside the US we have to rely on WHO partners to let us know what's going on in their country.  China obviously didn't like that sort of revelation.  Incidentally, although not part of the CDC the US puts up 22% of WHO's budget.  The assessment for 2020 is 57.8 Million in cash.  We also put up a lot of information services by making our databases available to the world.

Read it from the source:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/overview.htm

The U.S. influenza surveillance system is a collaborative effort between CDC and its many partners in state, local, and territorial health departments, public health and clinical laboratories, vital statistics offices, healthcare providers, clinics, and emergency departments. Information in five categories is collected from eight data sources in order to:

  • Find out when and where influenza activity is occurring;
  • Determine what influenza viruses are circulating;
  • Detect changes in influenza viruses; and
  • Measure the impact influenza is having on outpatient illness, hospitalizations and deaths.

It is important to maintain a comprehensive system for influenza surveillance for the following reasons:

  • Influenza viruses are constantly changing (referred to as antigenic drift), and thus ongoing data collection and characterization of the viruses are required;
  • Influenza viruses can also undergo an abrupt, major change (referred to as antigenic shift) that results in a virus that is different than currently circulating influenza viruses; surveillance of viruses will detect these changes and inform the public health response;
  • Vaccines must be administered annually and are updated regularly based on surveillance findings;
  • Treatment for influenza is guided by laboratory surveillance for antiviral resistance; and
  • Influenza surveillance and targeted research studies are used to monitor the impact of influenza on different segments of the population (e.g. age groups, underlying medical conditions).


 
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Bus Driver said:
So, if your boy had his way, what would that have done for the preparedness?

Of course, he does own the firing and non-replacement of the folks who would've been involved - 

It is also true that in 2018 the Trump administration fired key officials connected to the U.S. pandemic response, and they were not replaced.

Also in 2018, news reports circulated about an 80% reduction in the CDC’s program that worked in various countries to fight epidemics. That was the result of the anticipated depletion of previously allotted funding. “Countries where the CDC is planning to scale back include some of the world’s hot spots for emerging infectious disease, such as China, Pakistan, Haiti, Rwanda and Congo,” the Washington Post reported in 2018.

The fact that epidemic prevention-efforts were scaled back in China gained new significance in February 2020 as coronavirus spread globally after it was first detected in Wuhan, China, in late 2019.

U.S. legislators in late February were discussing billions of dollars in funding for coronavirus response.

Did President Trump Cut the CDC Budget?
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The study posted in this thread, shows your fear mongering to be a false narrative.   

 
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Nope. The study deals with all kinds of factors. The sum total shows that the US is the most prepared nation on earth.  As a US citizen I was happy to learn the country is prepared.  The headline was in response to the hyperbole expressed in many threads claiming the exact opposite.  
There is no telling where this will lead, but the country, according to this study has the ability to deal with it better than has been predicted. 
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So, why don’t they have enough test kits?

 
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Anyhoo, all the preparation in the world won't protect you from HWWBT (He who won't be told)

Read this very carefully Joker.


https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/02/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-vaccine-push-back/index.html


President Donald Trump was contradicted by a health expert on his coronavirus task force over the timing for a potential vaccine during a briefing Monday.
Trump was asked about a timeline for a vaccine during the Cabinet Room meeting with pharmaceutical executives and members of his task force.
"I don't know what the time will be. I've heard very quick numbers, that of months. And I've heard pretty much a year would be an outside number. So I think that's not a bad range. But if you're talking about three to four months in a couple of cases, a year in other cases," Trump said.
 
But Dr. Antony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, immediately corrected the President: "Let me make sure you get the ... information. A vaccine that you make and start testing in a year is not a vaccine that's deployable."
As Fauci explained the timeline, Trump folded his arms.

Fauci said: "So he's asking the question -- when is it going to be deployable? And that is going to be, at the earliest, a year to a year and a half, no matter how fast you go."
 
"Do you think that's right?" Trump asked the pharmaceutical executives at the table, just as Fauci finished speaking. "Well, I think treatment in many ways might be more exciting."
 
The pushback didn't come just from Fauci.
Throughout the meeting, Trump was hyperfocused on pressing industry leaders in the room for a timeline for a coronavirus vaccine and treatment.
But experts at the table -- from the administration and the pharmaceutical industry -- repeatedly emphasized that a vaccine can't be rushed to market before it's been declared safe for the public.
 
"So you're talking over the next few months, you could have a vaccine?" Trump later asked Stéphane Bancel, the CEO of Moderna, a biotechnology company.

 
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badlatitude said:
So, why don’t they have enough test kits?
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Because.

1) This admin resisted testing early on because it (positive results) might make them look bad

2) the CDC plagued by Trump cuts managed to contaminate the lab where the kits were being developed causing more delays

 
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Fakenews said:
Because.

1) This admin resisted testing early on because it (positive results) might make them look bad

2) the CDC plagued by Trump cuts managed to contaminate the lab where the kits were being developed causing more delays
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Bingo! We also don’t have enough respirators, even though we have known that since 2005.

 
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bhyde said:
Viral Assay Kit - $2.50

CT Scan - $800.00

Fucking brilliant
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I thought it was all about the speed to diagnose.  Test kits go to labs to be read. 24 to 48 hours 
I’d love to see a copy of any test billed at $2.50 

 
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Fakenews said:
Because.

1) This admin resisted testing early on because it (positive results) might make them look bad

2) the CDC plagued by Trump cuts managed to contaminate the lab where the kits were being developed causing more delays
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Fucking moron, the fake cuts are well discussed upthread , fickoff.

 
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