USSAILING Champions of Champions regatta

eflat

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Interesting field here with lots of talent.The mistery guest is no slouch either.Rank em up...what do you think?

 

Hobie Anarchy

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Dude, you got to give people a link or something.
Throw us a bone
US Sailing Championship of Champions Regatta

Competitor List:

Sail Fleet US SAILING Area Skipper/Crew Hometown Yacht Club

1. Lightning Oscar Barney

Tim Mills

Kevin Stravers Portland, Oregon USA

2. Lightning Paul Cayard

Austin Sperry

Kristine Wake Kentfield, CA USA

3. Lightning Augie Diaz

Barr Batzer

Michele Sumpton MIami, FL USA

4. Lightning Ted Dickson

Emily Dickson

Jonathan Foot Matthews, NC USA

5. Lightning Skip Dieball

Jody Starck

Tom Starck Toledo, OH USA

6. Lightning Greg Fisher

Dan Moriarty

Tobi Moriarty Annapolis, Maryland USA

7. Lightning Talbott Ingram

Carol Lee Ingram

Tal Ingram Fair Haven, New Jersey USA

8. Lightning Jeffrey Linton

Amy Smith Linton

Todd Wake Tampa, FL USA

9. Lightning Mike Martin

Stephanie Martin

Neal Fowler Newport Beach, CA USA

10. Lightning Olin Paine

Rebecca King

Steve Hunt *, * USA

11. Lightning Darrell Peck

Lois Parshley

Allison Webber Gresham, OR USA

12. Lightning Chris Raab

Ryan Minth

Kenneth Dair Sunset Beach, CA USA

13. Lightning Stuart Robertson

Mead Whitlock Batchelor IV

Mark Ryan Huntington Beach, Ca USA

14. Lightning David Rumbaugh

Steven Fishman

Anne Newton Sacramento, California USA

15. Lightning David Spira

Dennis Martinelli

James Daus Denver, CO USA

16. Lightning Allan Terhune, Jr.

Catherine Terhune

Dave Perkowski Arnold, MD USA

17. Lightning Jeff Thomas

Michael Foster

Gary Peterson New Bern, NC USA

18. Lightning Mateo Vargas

Mary Kate Hall

Christopher Gardiner *, * USA

19. Lightning Paul White

Patrick Passafiume

Tony Passafiume Indianapolis, IN USA

20. Lightning Christopher Williford

Marc Schillebeeckx

Titou Schillebeeckx *, * USA

There are some one-design heavy hitters in there.

 

Dawg

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I thought the CoC was for those who won their respective class NA or US Championships.

Why doesn't the list of entrants say what class they represent??

 

laserichard

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I thought the CoC was for those who won their respective class NA or US Championships.
Why doesn't the list of entrants say what class they represent??
why ask why?

1. Chris Raab

Mercury

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Sunset Beach, CA USA







2. Allison Jolly

470

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St. Petersburg, FL USA







3. Dick Tillman

KONA Class

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Merritt island, FLorida USA







4. Jeff Linton

Championship of Champions 2009

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Tampa, FL USA







5. Jeff Thomas

San Juan 21

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New Bern, NC USA







6. Darrell Peck

Finn

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Gresham, OR USA







7. David Spira

Buccaneer 18

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Denver, CO USA







8. Stephanie Hudson

Club 420

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Winnetka, IL USA







9. Stephen Smeulders

Force 5

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Pittsford, NY USA







10. Skip Dieball

Highlander

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Toledo, OH USA







11. Talbott Ingram

Comet

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Fair Haven, New Jersey USA







12. Stuart Robertson

Lido 14

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Huntington Beach, Ca USA







13. Greg Fisher

Thisle

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Annapolis, Maryland USA







14. Paul White

Y- Flyer

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Indianapolis, IN USA







15. ALLAN TERHUNE

Lightning

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Arnold, MD USA







16. Augie Diaz

Snipe

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Miami, FL USA







17. Stewart Draheim

Flying Scot

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Rockwall, Texas USA







18. Oscar Barney

Geary 18

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Portland, Oregon USA







19. Ted Dickson

Day Sailer

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Matthews, NC USA







20. David Rumbaugh

Cornado 15

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Sacramento, California USA







21. Olin Paine

Lightning

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San Diego, CA USA







22. Mateo Vargas

Laser Radial

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Treasure Island, FL USA







23. Christopher Williford

Optimist

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Fort Lauderdale, fl USA







24. Mike Martin

505

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Newport Beach, CA USA







25. Paul Cayard

Star/ Guest

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Kentfield, CA USA









ps- cayard will win, dawg

 
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Dr_Crash

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Interesting field here with lots of talent.The mistery guest is no slouch either.Rank em up...what do you think?
Tobi & Dan Moriarty

On the premise that the champion should be listed #1 until someone has shown the ability to beat them on the water, Tobi & Dan, the reigning Lightning World Champions, should be ranked as the favorites. The will be sailing with Greg Fisher filling in for his brother, Matt Fisher, on their home waters.

A good sucker bet for all our women friends would be to find your local male chauvinist pig and bet him that a woman will be on the winning team. The field is packed with excellent women sailors. Hell, even the "Mystery Guest" has recruited a secret weapon, Kristine Wake!

 

Hobie Anarchy

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Gouvernail said:
ISAF has a rule requiring thier approval for regattas named worlds.
Somebody with some clout...perhaps SA .... needs a rule about the use of Champion of Champions...

This so called Champion of Champions regatta has a MUCH LONGER LIST of "those who really ought to be there but aren't"..... Than its list of those who are.

At what point do we , the sailors, say to USSailing, "If you are going to hold a farce. DON"T cheapen the title or embarass the entire nation by calling your event Champion of Champions.

Seriously, USSailing should be ashamed of the field.

Where are the various members of the US Olympic sailing team?

How about the collegiate champions?

The youth champions??

Hell.. How about Mary Helen's top kid from LYRA???

What percentage of the one design fleets with 100 or more national members are represented by their current national champions??

How about winners from divisions of the NOOD regattas? Key West race Week?? SF Big Boat series??

Have any USSailors recently prospered in international events?? Why aren't they sailing the C 0f C

Where are the top finishers from the recent Laser worlds? Even The Laser Masters Worlds?? (Some who didn't even qualify are sailing the the Champions of Champions)

Where is the current Sunfish world champion...He is from the US.

The fleet has a few pretty darned good sailors. It should be a fun event for those present.

The foolishness that is calling the event the "Championship of all the Champions" is exactly the sort of non-sense that screams...

Disband USsailing before USSailing can do more damage to our sport.
Oh, please, Gouv. Give it a rest.

The CofC has been around for a long time - like 25 years. First of all, you need to win a Nationals / NAs in a class. Then you have to want to go - by filling out an entry form. Do you think that most keelboat drivers would want to sail on Lk. Carlyle in Lightnings?

I did it in 2006 and had a great time. The transition from a Hobie 17 (singlehanded catamaran) to a Y-Flyer (doublehanded, hard chine scow) was a bit of a stretch and I got my ass handed to me. I still had a great time.

 
my guess is it will come out of this group:

Skip Dieball

Greg Fisher

Jeff Linton

Allan Terhunne

these guys all make a living sailing and are focused on or have been on the lightning for some time. plus they are fast.

 

NYBOZO1

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Finally we get to see a guy like Cayard compete with the best mom and pop dinghy sailors.

If he finishes deep, it may, in my opinion, help boost the careers of the above small boat pros.

 

laserichard

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Finally we get to see a guy like Cayard compete with the best mom and pop dinghy sailors.
If he finishes deep, it may, in my opinion, help boost the careers of the above small boat pros.
ha, he will not finish deep, i guarantee you that.

 

Dawg

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I thought the CoC was for those who won their respective class NA or US Championships.
Why doesn't the list of entrants say what class they represent??
why ask why?

1. Chris Raab

Mercury

Register/


Sunset Beach, CA USA







2. Allison Jolly

470

Register/


St. Petersburg, FL USA







3. Dick Tillman

KONA Class

Register/1


Merritt island, FLorida USA







4. Jeff Linton

Championship of Champions 2009

Register/


Tampa, FL USA







5. Jeff Thomas

San Juan 21

Register/


New Bern, NC USA







6. Darrell Peck

Finn

Register/


Gresham, OR USA







7. David Spira

Buccaneer 18

Register/


Denver, CO USA







8. Stephanie Hudson

Club 420

Register/


Winnetka, IL USA







9. Stephen Smeulders

Force 5

Register/


Pittsford, NY USA







10. Skip Dieball

Highlander

Register/


Toledo, OH USA







11. Talbott Ingram

Comet

Register/


Fair Haven, New Jersey USA







12. Stuart Robertson

Lido 14

Register/


Huntington Beach, Ca USA







13. Greg Fisher

Thisle

Register/


Annapolis, Maryland USA







14. Paul White

Y- Flyer

Register/


Indianapolis, IN USA







15. ALLAN TERHUNE

Lightning

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Arnold, MD USA







16. Augie Diaz

Snipe

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Miami, FL USA







17. Stewart Draheim

Flying Scot

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Rockwall, Texas USA







18. Oscar Barney

Geary 18

Register/


Portland, Oregon USA







19. Ted Dickson

Day Sailer

Register/


Matthews, NC USA







20. David Rumbaugh

Cornado 15

Register/


Sacramento, California USA







21. Olin Paine

Lightning

Register/


San Diego, CA USA







22. Mateo Vargas

Laser Radial

Register/


Treasure Island, FL USA







23. Christopher Williford

Optimist

Register/


Fort Lauderdale, fl USA







24. Mike Martin

505

Register/


Newport Beach, CA USA







25. Paul Cayard

Star/ Guest

Register/


Kentfield, CA USA









ps- cayard will win, dawg
Thanks, I looked at the 2009 entrants and did not see the classes. You have to look at the Applications accepted page.

 

Pete M

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the lightning guys got a leg up - no mater how good martin, jolly, or cayard are - with no time in the borrowed boats they won't win

and you gotta be invited, and pay your own way

 

Winever

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Here's my guess and really a guess after the top 10. Fisher first because it's him AND world class crew, then Terhune, I mean he was fourth in Vermont. Linton because he has the titles behind him, Peck was 14th at Worlds, then Skip Dieball who could obviously be higher, Olin Paine because he's a Lightning sailor, then Diaz then Cayard (time in boat).

Then the rest of the story. Like I said just a guess and I wouldn't bet on the Laser and Opti sailors being that far down.

Cheers, Winever.

1. Greg Fisher

Thisle

Register/

Annapolis, Maryland USA

2. ALLAN TERHUNE

Lightning

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Arnold, MD USA

3. Jeff Linton

Championship of Champions 2009

Register/

Tampa, FL USA

4. Darrell Peck

Finn

Register/

Gresham, OR USA

5. Skip Dieball

Highlander

Register/

Toledo, OH USA

6. Olin Paine

Lightning

Register/

San Diego, CA USA

7. Augie Diaz

Snipe

Register/

Miami, FL USA

8. Paul Cayard

Star/ Guest

Register/

Kentfield, CA USA

9. Mike Martin

505

Register/

Newport Beach, CA USA

10. Paul White

Y- Flyer

Register/

Indianapolis, IN USA

11. Chris Raab

Mercury

Register/

Sunset Beach, CA USA

12. Talbott Ingram

Comet

Register/

Fair Haven, New Jersey USA

13. Jeff Thomas

San Juan 21

Register/

New Bern, NC USA

4. David Spira

Buccaneer 18

Register/

Denver, CO USA

15. Stuart Robertson

Lido 14

Register/

Huntington Beach, Ca USA

16. Oscar Barney

Geary 18

Register/

Portland, Oregon USA

17. Ted Dickson

Day Sailer

Register/

Matthews, NC USA

18. David Rumbaugh

Cornado 15

Register/

Sacramento, California USA

19. Christopher Williford

Optimist

Register/

Fort Lauderdale, fl USA

20. Mateo Vargas

Laser Radial

Register/

Treasure Island, FL USA

BTW, this is the full list of is going, 25 applied, 20 sail.

 
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eliboat

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You are not entirely correct Hobie... A few years back I was commodore of the Frosty fleet in NH, and I got an email from US Sailing asking who our champion for the season was. I told the guy who had won, and that he would be a great addition to the CofC should they want to send an invite. I got a response saying that they really wanted our champ to be there, but that we hadn't paid US Sailing dues and that would have to be done before he could go. I told the guy to go fuck himself and then explained that we as a class were growing rapidly and had come back from the brink of extinction without any help from US Sailing. In the past we had paid our dues only to get nothing, so I told Peter, our champ that year (and an excellent sailor who eventually won a few races at the event) that if he wanted to go, that he would have to pay the fleet dues. As a class we have stood by our policy to not be US Sailing members as they do nothing to support the dinghy classes that they purport promote by having the CofC regatta. As far as I can tell, US Sailing is only interested in promoting boats that are built by Vanguard (no offense to Vanguard).

Gouvernail said:
ISAF has a rule requiring thier approval for regattas named worlds.
Somebody with some clout...perhaps SA .... needs a rule about the use of Champion of Champions...

This so called Champion of Champions regatta has a MUCH LONGER LIST of "those who really ought to be there but aren't"..... Than its list of those who are.

At what point do we , the sailors, say to USSailing, "If you are going to hold a farce. DON"T cheapen the title or embarass the entire nation by calling your event Champion of Champions.

Seriously, USSailing should be ashamed of the field.

Where are the various members of the US Olympic sailing team?

How about the collegiate champions?

The youth champions??

Hell.. How about Mary Helen's top kid from LYRA???

What percentage of the one design fleets with 100 or more national members are represented by their current national champions??

How about winners from divisions of the NOOD regattas? Key West race Week?? SF Big Boat series??

Have any USSailors recently prospered in international events?? Why aren't they sailing the C 0f C

Where are the top finishers from the recent Laser worlds? Even The Laser Masters Worlds?? (Some who didn't even qualify are sailing the the Champions of Champions)

Where is the current Sunfish world champion...He is from the US.

The fleet has a few pretty darned good sailors. It should be a fun event for those present.

The foolishness that is calling the event the "Championship of all the Champions" is exactly the sort of non-sense that screams...

Disband USsailing before USSailing can do more damage to our sport.
Oh, please, Gouv. Give it a rest.

The CofC has been around for a long time - like 25 years. First of all, you need to win a Nationals / NAs in a class. Then you have to want to go - by filling out an entry form. Do you think that most keelboat drivers would want to sail on Lk. Carlyle in Lightnings?

I did it in 2006 and had a great time. The transition from a Hobie 17 (singlehanded catamaran) to a Y-Flyer (doublehanded, hard chine scow) was a bit of a stretch and I got my ass handed to me. I still had a great time.
 

Hobie Anarchy

Super Anarchist
You are not entirely correct Hobie... A few years back I was commodore of the Frosty fleet in NH, and I got an email from US Sailing asking who our champion for the season was. I told the guy who had won, and that he would be a great addition to the CofC should they want to send an invite. I got a response saying that they really wanted our champ to be there, but that we hadn't paid US Sailing dues and that would have to be done before he could go. I told the guy to go fuck himself and then explained that we as a class were growing rapidly and had come back from the brink of extinction without any help from US Sailing. In the past we had paid our dues only to get nothing, so I told Peter, our champ that year (and an excellent sailor who eventually won a few races at the event) that if he wanted to go, that he would have to pay the fleet dues. As a class we have stood by our policy to not be US Sailing members as they do nothing to support the dinghy classes that they purport promote by having the CofC regatta. As far as I can tell, US Sailing is only interested in promoting boats that are built by Vanguard (no offense to Vanguard).
Fair enough - you're right - your class does need to be a current member of US Sailing for the champion to participate in the CofC.

It's a benefit of membership.

But this statment:

As a class we have stood by our policy to not be US Sailing members as they do nothing to support the dinghy classes that they purport promote by having the CofC regatta.
Is bullshit. What about the five One-Design Sailing Symposia? First one was 2004 in Newport.

 

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