Vendee Globe 2016?
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terrafirma
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Anyone care to predict the 1st 3 places of the VG 2016? And where will Hugo Boss finish and if so where?
Haligonian Winterr
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Ideal (no breakages)
1 - Maitre Coque
2 - Safran
3 - Boss
Reality
1 - PRB
2 - Gitana
3 - SMA
HW
1 - Maitre Coque
2 - Safran
3 - Boss
Reality
1 - PRB
2 - Gitana
3 - SMA
HW
staysail
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PRB
Queguiner
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HB will not make it.
Most heavy debris floats near the surface and increasing the shallow swept cross section greatly increases the probability of hitting UFOs and big fish. Foilers all very likely to suffer crippling damage to foils. I don't reckon any foilers will manage the distance.
Marinatrix447
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@ Haji.... thx for posting those pics matey.... looks like you had a great day out.....
Come Oct I will be of course routin' for the Brits and (cough) yes the Yankie-doodle-dandy too... the upset to the Frenchies if a boat comes over the finishing line at Les Sables d’Olonne not flying the Tricolore...well the odds are firmly stacked against it...
But underdogs winning is what its all about....in my book.... woof!
Come Oct I will be of course routin' for the Brits and (cough) yes the Yankie-doodle-dandy too... the upset to the Frenchies if a boat comes over the finishing line at Les Sables d’Olonne not flying the Tricolore...well the odds are firmly stacked against it...
But underdogs winning is what its all about....in my book.... woof!
Texas Strong
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Agreed. No chance in hell that any foiling boat makes it around without breaking at least one of their boards.
LeoV
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Duh, Homer Simpson moment, off course its reef
As is the blue line ...I am wondering about the engineering of the foils, they must be massively strong.
Oh and thanks Haji.
jonas a
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SMA hasn't been that successful since last VG. I think BP8 and PRB are the biggest favourites mostly because of consistency, but I am quite sure that Gitana too already is faster than PRB. All the other toilers still have a lot to prove....too many unknowns,
oceanwwgg
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my wish :
1- (gitana 16 - hugo boss)
2- maitre coq
3- paprec virbac
reality:
1- (banque pop- prb )
2- gitana 16
3 - paprec virbac
1- (gitana 16 - hugo boss)
2- maitre coq
3- paprec virbac
reality:
1- (banque pop- prb )
2- gitana 16
3 - paprec virbac
terrafirma
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Certainly the probability of hitting something is getting higher all the time. I actually wonder which teams are thinking more about survival and course completion rather than speed? Certainly the foilers will be hitting more objects. Interesting race coming.
Cool pics! Moooore.
And in the same direction, can someone tell us a bit about the outriggers(?) Maite Coc has in the back?
Taking a look a the qualifications.
Conrad arrived in Newport completing his his 1500nm solo trip.
Next up is the NY-Vendee starting on Sunday, with ~2 VG qualifications left:
n°12 Yann ELIES - Quéguiner - Leucémie Espoir: Seems like he did not do his 1500nm solo trip so far. The delivery to Newport was crewed.
Kojiro Shiraishi - Spirit of Yukoh: So far not listed on the site but mentioned in several articles. He needs to place in a 2500+nm solo race.
The 3 early retirements were:
Ari Huusela – Flying with Finnair: Hard to race without a boat
n°25 Stéphane Le Diraison – Marine Renewable Energies: a delayed boat launch does not allow him to be ready on time to start the race.
Jean-François Pellet – Come in Vendée: measurement controls were not validated on time to allow him to take part in the race. [should be ex-Grey Power]
The three of them and n°23 Richard Tolkien need a 2500+nm solo race on the book to qualify for the VG. Jean-François wants on the waiting list. Ari is not registered.
AFAIK there is no race left. So we'll have to wait and see who tries for NOR 4.7 "A qualification passage in a non-racing context" which needs prior approval. All of the 20k deposit for the VG will be refunded if the skipper withdraws before July 1st. There should be enough time for them enough to get approval (or not) before that date.
Other than that there should be just 2 solo trips left.
n°16 Jean le Cam: Will do his 1500nm solo trip soonish.
n°19 Nandor Fa - Spirit Of Hungary: The replacement sails arrived to late for the NY-Vendee race. He will do his 1500nm solo trip on the same course.
I guess we'll see some VG site updates once the NY-Vendee is done.
And in the same direction, can someone tell us a bit about the outriggers(?) Maite Coc has in the back?
Taking a look a the qualifications.
Conrad arrived in Newport completing his his 1500nm solo trip.
Next up is the NY-Vendee starting on Sunday, with ~2 VG qualifications left:
n°12 Yann ELIES - Quéguiner - Leucémie Espoir: Seems like he did not do his 1500nm solo trip so far. The delivery to Newport was crewed.
Kojiro Shiraishi - Spirit of Yukoh: So far not listed on the site but mentioned in several articles. He needs to place in a 2500+nm solo race.
The 3 early retirements were:
Ari Huusela – Flying with Finnair: Hard to race without a boat
n°25 Stéphane Le Diraison – Marine Renewable Energies: a delayed boat launch does not allow him to be ready on time to start the race.
Jean-François Pellet – Come in Vendée: measurement controls were not validated on time to allow him to take part in the race. [should be ex-Grey Power]
The three of them and n°23 Richard Tolkien need a 2500+nm solo race on the book to qualify for the VG. Jean-François wants on the waiting list. Ari is not registered.
AFAIK there is no race left. So we'll have to wait and see who tries for NOR 4.7 "A qualification passage in a non-racing context" which needs prior approval. All of the 20k deposit for the VG will be refunded if the skipper withdraws before July 1st. There should be enough time for them enough to get approval (or not) before that date.
Other than that there should be just 2 solo trips left.
n°16 Jean le Cam: Will do his 1500nm solo trip soonish.
n°19 Nandor Fa - Spirit Of Hungary: The replacement sails arrived to late for the NY-Vendee race. He will do his 1500nm solo trip on the same course.
I guess we'll see some VG site updates once the NY-Vendee is done.
nkb
Member
Race director Denis Horeau fired/quit last night (depends who you ask) and replaced by Jacques Cares.
jack_sparrow
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While everyone is concerned about the liability of the new foils with collision damage, I suspect a higher probability for failure will will still be in hard uphill conditions and probably no different a threat level those conditions impose on traditional daggerboards. That said for a foil collision I wonder what snaps first, the foil or the hull/structure holding it? If the latter it could get very ugly.
I'm pretty keen on MC.
I'm pretty keen on MC.
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mad
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2 different events:
followed by
A source for that. What looks to be the primary source, with a letter from Denis Horeau.
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There are signifiantly more ways of damaging these foils than normal daggerboards, and from what I've heard I reckon that's partly what caught the designers out. More potential laod cases, so there the direct lift from the arm, theres the inwards lift from the tip, but then also significant torque from the tip - and whack something with the end of the tip and it's not going like it at all. Add in an overcomplicated and underthought through hull reinfocement scheme and was all over rover. I'd give short odds on most of the new boats having major issues on the lap.
