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jack_sparrow

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So did Burton make a mistake going so far south? He's going 15 with 30knots of breeze...
Had to gybe north east sometime. Breeze up the arse at the back of the low and slowing him down. Other two similiar but breeze more west up higher where they are. 

 
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jack_sparrow

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34 minutes ago, Jud - s/v Sputnik said:

Sorry if this has been posted already - President Macron calls up le Cam and Escoffier!  Brilliant.  Only in France - love it!


Did JLC just tell Macron to get off his arse and get a French destroyer to quickly come so he can kick this hitchhiker off his boat???

 

Jud - s/v Sputnik

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Did JLC just tell Macron to get off his arse and get a French destroyer to quickly come so he can kick this hitchhiker off his boat???
Probably.  I only listened to the beginning part of it quickly, but the person who originally posted it, where I first saw it, said it was a funny exchange.  Will have to watch the whole thing now!

 

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Here's a list of UFO (or OFNI or one identified object) incidents so far to help keep this straight:

  1. Nov 11, Charal turns around to repair at Vendee after UFO incident
  2. Nov 24, LinkedOut reports damaged foil, cuts section, was it UFO (Rouillard reported loud noise but not impact)?
  3. Nov 27, PRB breaks in half, was any UFO involved?
  4. Nov 28, Hugo Boss reports strike with fishing gear damaged rudder beyond repair
  5. Dec 2, Arkea-Paprec reports UFO damage to foil
  6. Dec 2, Initiatives – Coeur reports UFO damage

Only one or two boats abandoned so far due to damage, depending on how to count PRB, but incidents with Charal and Boss make a major change to the race. And the problem with LinkedOut is a big factor now too.  Now, I'll bet there's errors here, bring on the corrections SA.
Anyone knows if these boats are equipped with Oscar, the anti collisions detection system? Wondering if it really works

 

jack_sparrow

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Spermwhales have been a big actor in these accidents too, there is a long list of natural menaces for the high speed sailing world, but they are natural and beautiful not artificial and horrendous (that is what is more depressing for the one who subscribes), those natural menaces live in the blue, they exist before us and will remain there (hopefully).
"... they are natural and beautiful not artificial and horrendous..."

Agree. Humpbacks, Sperm Whales etc also have reasonably defined migration paths going south to Antartica now if not already there and off the race course. 

However Orcas don't smile...they sort of sneer ....and are known to go weird like this in Nth Hemisphere summer just gone. 

Scientists baffled by Orcas ramming sailing boats near Spain and Portugal

I have had Orcas in number cross my path in daylight which is very unsettling due to their speed.

However a pod of the fuckers doing this I would be shitting my pants big time.

"Clack-clack-clack......here is a killer whale thrashing around in my cockpit and it looks very hungry."




 
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stief

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Anyone knows if these boats are equipped with Oscar, the anti collisions detection system? Wondering if it really works
18 boats equipped, says VGsite, (3 with whale pingers), but doesn't list them

4 named (2 with testaments) by  SailWorld. All say it's still in development

1. Maxime Sorel, V&B Mayenne
2. Boris Hermann, Seaexplorer - Yacht Club de Monaco
3. Kévin Escoffier, PRB
4. Samantha Davies, Initiatives Cœur

5. Alex Thomson Hugo Boss

6. -> 18?

So 3 of the 5 so far on the list. 

 
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Humpbacks, Sperm Whales etc have reasonably defined migration paths going south to Antartica now if not already there and off the race course. 

However Orcas are known to go weird like this in Nth Hemisphere summer just gone. 

Scientists baffled by Orcas ramming sailing boats near Spain and Portugal

I have had Orcas in number cross my path which is very unsettling due to their speed. 

However a pod of the fuckers doing this I would be shitting my pants big time.
There have been several attacks by estimated 4 herds (15 orcas or so) to the rudders of different sailing boats reported in the last months in Costa da Morte NW Spain and Portugal, there has also been even restricted areas for vessels less than 15.mts long by this cause. Scientists are quite confused and have no answer. Different theories are they are playing with them, hunting practice for the youngs, also maybe somekind of possible vengance and also the decreasing numbers in their food chain... One thing is quite certain, they are very very intelligent creatures... In the Gibraltar Strait, resident herds attack the giant bluefin tuna hooked by fisherman (very easy tasty meal)  :) Mr D. Attenborough and the BBC explain it much much better than me :)


 
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41 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

"... they are natural and beautiful not artificial and horrendous..."

Agree. Humpbacks, Sperm Whales etc also have reasonably defined migration paths going south to Antartica now if not already there and off the race course. 

However Orcas don't smile...they sort of sneer ....and are known to go weird like this in Nth Hemisphere summer just gone. 

Scientists baffled by Orcas ramming sailing boats near Spain and Portugal

I have had Orcas in number cross my path in daylight which is very unsettling due to their speed.

However a pod of the fuckers doing this I would be shitting my pants big time.

"Clack-clack-clack......here is a killer whale thrashing around in my cockpit and it looks very hungry."






Yup, Killer whales are attacking their foils.  First, they swim well ahead of them, then either stop or swim back at the foils and smash into them killing themselves but also breaking foils.  Kamikaze whales!

Good call.

 

jack_sparrow

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18 boats equipped, says VGsite, (3 with whale pingers), but doesn't list them

4 named (2 with testaments) by  SailWorld. All say it's still in development

1. Maxime Sorel, V&B Mayenne
2. Boris Hermann, Seaexplorer - Yacht Club de Monaco
3. Kévin Escoffier, PRB
4. Samantha Davies, Initiatives Cœur

5. Alex Thomson Hugo Boss

6. -> 18?

So 3 of the 5 so far on the list. 


Vid linky courtesy Herman

Description operation from 2.45

As UFO and sea state false alarm image data base grows so does accuracy and reliability.

From 5.00 Herrmann has his linked to his AP. 

 
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Varan

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Watching Le Cam booking along at 17+ in 6th place got me thinking (oh oh) about what a great opportunity this is for Escoffier, watching a master do his thing 24/7. You cannot buy that kind of training. All the little nuisances, rig checks, weather routing, sleep and meal patterns, ... 

 

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Gabart, Peyton, Le Cleach, Lipinski, Riou, and a bunch of other pros are doing it, and many of them are taking it seriously and doing well.  Alberto Bona is the leader among "certified" participants
Loick Peyron, or his team, is up my arse since days. Also seen team Gabart in the vincinty all the time. Makes the virtual real fun.

I would also say that the polars are in the region of the 2016 foilers with the described benefits for the virtual sailors: no currents, no stress about breaking anything ...

 

jack_sparrow

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Gutted for Sam. She had to abandoned early her last time, and now headed slowly north. This just sucks.
Another UFO.

That's now #7 I think?

6 since 24 November..LinkedOut?

So on average one every 36 hours.


 
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The container collapse on the boxship ONE Apus is poised to become one of the largest recent incidents. The owners and managers of the ship are now reporting that the extent of the lost and damaged containers could exceed 1,900 boxes with possibly 40 transporting dangerous goods. Fully loaded the Apus has a capacity of 14,000 TEU.

Yesterday, NYK Shipmanagement reported on behalf of Chidori Ship Holding that the 138,611 DWT vessel had suffered container collapse mid-Pacific during a voyage from Yantian, China bound for Long Beach, California. The Apus, which is operated as part of the Ocean Network Express (ONE), was approximately 1,600 nautical miles northwest of Hawaii when it encountered a violent storm cell that produced gale-force winds and large swells. The vessel rolled heavily in the storm resulting in the container collapse.

They reported that the Apus had diverted from its course and today confirmed that as AIS data showed yesterday that the ship has reversed course heading in a westerly direction. The managers said that they were seeking “a suitable port to right unstable containers, assess any damages, and determine the exact numbers of containers lost.” The AIS data now indicates that the Apus is heading towards Yokohama due to arrive on December 7, while yesterday it indicated Kobe.

“Our focus remains on getting the ship to a safe port to ensure the ongoing safety of the crew, the vessel, and the cargo on board,” the companies said in their statement. They also reported that a notification was sent to the JRCC in Honolulu and Guam with maritime navigational warnings subsequently broadcast. They continue to promise that full investigation will be conducted into the incident.

The Apus is a new containership having been delivered in April of 2019 as the sixth in a series of seven ships being built for ONE at the Kure Shipyard of Japan Marine United Corporation. Measuring 1,194 feet in length, she employs a hull form that minimizes the engine-room space to improve cargo-loading efficiency and the latest safety and navigational technology.

This incident is the second recent container collapse experienced aboard one of the vessels of the network. On October 30, a sister ship, the ONE Aquila also suffered a collapse during heavy weather in the Pacific. The company did not announce the number of containers lost or damaged, but that vessel diverted to Tacoma, Washington, where she spent nearly a week undergoing a survey and offloading damaged boxes before proceeding to Long Beach.

A loss or damage of nearly 2,000 containers would rank among the largest incidents the industry has experienced without the loss of a vessel. The World Shipping Council in its 2020 report on containers lost at sea said the yearly total was declining. In the most recent three-year period, they reported the average was 779 containers lost down by nearly half from the average of 1,390 lost in the three prior years.  Among the most significant incidents was 4,293 containers in 2013 when the MOL Comfort was lost and approximately 900 containers in 2011 when the Rena grounded.

Weather is considered to be one of the most frequent factors contributing to container damage or loss overboard during a voyage.

 

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When the fleet first got into the trough up by TS Theta Sam dropped this vid and she seemed uncomfortable with the boat motion in the seas. Found it notable at the time given her experience in doing these races...








 
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jack_sparrow

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Another UFO.

That's now #7 I think?

6 since 24 November..LinkedOut?

So on average one every 36 hours.
An 'Actuary' can probably come up with "risk" curve according to fleet position.

Closer to the front theoretically in UFO danger postcodes like here (west east continuous globe circling current) you are better to be leading or not?? 

 
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