Vendee Globe 2020

[JonRowe]

Personally. I'm giving Alex the benefit of the doubt. He was in this race to win it, brand new super charged boat, all that time energy and effort getting to the start line, and to see it go up in smoke? Devastating. I can't even begin to imagine what he's going through right now. I too might want to stay out of the public eye a bit and enjoy Christmas with my family.

 

[ttc546]

Why are you posting here if you have nothing to say?

Perhaps you hve humor bypass this morning? Chill man.   : D    

 

[littlechay]

There are 2 boats that look like ribs in this shot:

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Good find... I can't work out where it is take from so can't say where it is exactly though. 

 

[JonRowe]

Good find... I can't work out where it is take from so can't say where it is exactly though. 

Hopefully Cape Town at least  :lol: :lol:

 

[littlechay]

Is there a photo of the stern of Hugo Boss in Cape Town showing a missing rudder.?

 

[JonRowe]

Is there a photo of the stern of Hugo Boss in Cape Town showing a missing rudder.?

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[TPG]

The new BOSS foul weather collection will be dumped.

Zhik's tracker goes straight to Alex's current place in the race. Oof.

 

[stief]

Que? Need linky?

Morning Herman. Links are in #8751 and 8754 above. I'd bumped your post about 'grandma' the big iceberg for the recent posters discussing ice. Here's the link again if for some reason the ones above don't work.

 

[GBH]

Busy filing legal actions against engineers and the rudder builders?

Did you note the disclaimer from the team regarding 'sailing conservatively' through Theta, that's prepping for lawyers re structures/engineering/builder when the reality is that he's learnt nothing about looking after the boat and playing a long game.  You can be sure the lawyers once again will be rubbing their paws at the thought of more lucrative work.  Mind you, having lost the case re the broken foils from last time they might have second thoughts.

One thing for sure, they'll have to be doing a bit of explaining to the sponsors.

 

[WLIS Jibing]

As many have pointed out, AT is good for the race.  He is a great sailor, great communicator, brought amazing cutting-edge boats to the last two editions, and broadens the viewership of the race internationally.  For someone who has made winning this race THE goal of his career - to the point where he effectively said he did not care too much about losing the RdR  because he was focusing on the VG - it would be nice for him to spend more time supporting the race now that he is out.  As Jack points out, that could simply be appearances on the Live show and more social media outreach.  (I'm not sure he would even need him to clear up what happened to his boat.  Making a public appearance and talking about the race as it currently stands, his thoughts on what will happen, etc. would go a long way.)  In any event, I sincerely hope he figures out what he needs to, makes some appearances on the Live show or other shows, and is back in the next edition stronger than ever.  

 

[mad]

Did you note the disclaimer from the team regarding 'sailing conservatively' through Theta, that's prepping for lawyers re structures / engineering / builder when the reality is that he's learnt nothing about looking after the boat and playing a long game. You can be sure the lawyers once again will be rubbing their paws at the thought of more lucrative work. Mind you, having lost the case re the broken foils from last time they might have second thoughts.

One thing for sure, they'll have to be doing a bit of explaining to the sponsors.

Didn't we have a conversation about this a while ago ?? 

I wouldn't be looking at the builder of the boat in this, more the structures/engineering team. h34r:

 

[stief]

As for Alex and the rudder:

Mmmmmm ....apart from an obtuse nibble from stief

Sigh. Thought it was clear since Despo got it. Maybe you didn't see the "foiled thread?" (the editor posted it last week about the lawsuit over ATR's foils). 

ATR's silence over the rudder made sense if the case could be headed to court, like the ATR's case over the V1and V2 foils.

Anyway, sorry for contributing to the misunderstanding. I blame the Christmas preps, the wine, the dinner, and trying to keep up on the bloody iPad until I got my laptop back 

 

[Rocky]

As many have pointed out, AT is good for the race.  He is a great sailor, great communicator, brought amazing cutting-edge boats to the last two editions, and broadens the viewership of the race internationally.  For someone who has made winning this race THE goal of his career - to the point where he effectively said he did not care too much about losing the RdR  because he was focusing on the VG - it would be nice for him to spend more time supporting the race now that he is out.  As Jack points out, that could simply be appearances on the Live show and more social media outreach.  (I'm not sure he would even need him to clear up what happened to his boat.  Making a public appearance and talking about the race as it currently stands, his thoughts on what will happen, etc. would go a long way.)  In any event, I sincerely hope he figures out what he needs to, makes some appearances on the Live show or other shows, and is back in the next edition stronger than ever.  

I think that is quite natural honestly, given the disappointment, regardless of who's fault it was. If there even is someone to blame, could have been bad luck all together. Jeremie didn't make appearances after his damage, except the announcement of the damage and later the announcement that he will be back. Now he still is shattered as you can see in the few videos he has done recently. Probably no one in the team knows for now how things are going to continue and therefore they don't want to create a lot of noise, until things become more clear. I think that's all.

 

[cortosam]

Didn't we have a conversation about this a while ago?? 

Ah ah ah, i kindda remind having this discussion

 

[mad]

Didn't we have a conversation about this a while ago?? 

Ah ah ah, i kindda remind having this discussion

Well it wasn't with me, that's for sure.

 

[stief]

And if anyone thinks the speculation over ATR's rudder is bad, check out the wilder speculation over the redress expected Wednesday. It's been hilarious: far too many tweets in FR to link. 

 

[Bebmoumoute]

 

[cortosam]

4 minutes ago, Bebmoumoute said:

Being a virtual leader suits him well

 

[Bristol-Cruiser]

This massive glacier is apparently shedding icebergs on its way towards South Georgia. There is a good article in Thursday’s WaPost about the potential for ecological disaster if is runs aground near the island, thereby cutting off the food source of the many marine life that depend on krill for food, and making it very difficult for the penguins that are nesting on the island  to go to sea, having to potentially go around a block of ice the size of Rhode Island. The only time I was in that area the sea was so rough and it was so windy we had to abandon getting close to the island; the ship was heeled over abs there were some very sizable ice burgs moving off in the distance. I have been in some rough waters up here going down to Kodak and out the Aleutian chain, but that was humbling. It continued on to the Falklands. 

We were on South Georgia, on the opposite side from this iceberg, in remarkably good conditions. We visited one colony of King Penguins that had between 80,000 and 300,000 birds (depending on which expert was talking). From offshore it looked like the surface of the land was vibrating there were so many birds so close together. Don't know what the populations are like on the SW side but I assume similar.

 

[yl75]

Regarding HB rudder, I really don't understand why some footage hasn't been realeased, as, if it what happened, that footage clearly exists (just for shoreteam exchanges for instance).