I mean using polars of a fully crewed boat that is 5 ft longer in a pretend simulation vs reality of human fatigue, work list and strategy? It is like folks who look at the forecasts they have and assume that’s the reality over the water (and the local weather forecasts are some of the worst in regions where there’s limited maritime utility or specific interest) - and say “oh haha boat isn’t performing to spec”
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Thanks for the link. I like the level of detail his honour judge pearce is going to:All this bitching about the BOSS. I mean they had a handful of problems with the court case (regarding the >>useless foil<<which they lost a couple days ago. I understand that it had been a costly court case and AT lost big time. For the ones interested in the legal stuff: https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Comm/2020/3334.html
"In the 2016/2017 race, boats participating were for the first time allowed to use hydrofoils of a new design, so-called Dali hydrofoils, apparently because of the similarity of their shape to that of Salvador Dali's moustache."
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Hardly one media pipe....hardly starving.
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You mean the race that has changed its name which you have already forgotten, now uses bastardised VG boats and 7 year old submarines and cancelled next years race. That one??? :lol:
It is also how many people's at the end of the pipes not just number of pipes.
TOR is the one desperately in need of an oxygen pipe.
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stief
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Of course. Do you think Bouwe wouldn't know that? Do you think I didn't know that? That's why I asked for a link. Sheesh.
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Bouwe utterances are conflicted as hoping to put together a 65 entry in TOR.
Ask Capey (his and AT's offsider) that question.
I bet you don't get "comfortably ahead" once corrected.
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Don't you have a neighbor or mail lady or something?Thanks, I think.
No sister, no tits, I’m afraid.
I got angry with my sister for not wearing a mask.
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stief
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Good points: hope Bar Karate get Capey on again. As I said, they "rightly question" Bouwe's supposed statement. I haven't been able to find it. Weekend beer talk? Winding up a sponsor? Baiting 11th hour? ETC. Lots of obvious possibilities, but no link or first hand knowledge yet.
Oh well. The best part of the CH and MG discussion was that the ice limit being further north this time means the boats are in less favourable sea state (but safer from ice, of course). Hadn't heard anyone point out that difference from the last edition.
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There was some talk earlier about how CD was from the same school of thought as Gabart in that Gabart would not publicly reveal damage to his boat to prevent allowing competitors to take advantage. Curious to know whether Gabart and others would disclose damage of this sort, maybe because it might be fairly serious (hopefully not) or if CD is going against the Gabart school by revealing his foil damage.
stief
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Whatever the case, if CD has decided to be more "open", that's good. Maybe next edition most of the boats will have dashboards like Herrmann's, and be allowed to share their OSCAR data with each other while racing. The skippers who train together seem to like the advantages.
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Remember 8 years ago and before for Gabart, media access was a fraction it is now.
Old rules need modification to suit today.
For instance Charlie says foil is fucked, BUT it is the opposite side to what it really is.
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Ok, some interesting info. Let's focus on the Anglo world and social media. I suppose that the grey numbers in the first pic are IP numbers that you cannot decide the origin of the country. Almost half of Europe's numbers though those numbers are not telling at all. The next pic is more clear, it says 20% Anglaise.Hardly one media pipe....hardly starving.
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You mean the race that has changed its name which you have already forgotten, now uses bastardised VG boats and 7 year old submarines and cancelled next years race. That one??? :lol:
It is also how many people's at the end of the pipes not just number of pipes.
TOR is the one desperately in need of an oxygen pipe.
By pipe, I mean the single team we put most hope on. The rest of the world was on Hugo, meanwhile France - Armel in the year 2016. Now we lost Hugo and naturally, Boris comes as next our favorite skipper.
Surely, we can cheer on the French skippers. From the beginning, I'm cheering on Tripon. But I notice that at least 50% of texts here were about Hugo. Analyzing, bullshitting, and worshipping of everything that has to do with Hugo in the smallest details. The only missing detail was the frequency of shitting in a pot. Nothing strange.
Some say it was some drama around Hugo here. It is true. Frenchmen can change their favorites as there are almost 30 skippers to cheer on.
For VOR, I should write "was". What happens next? Well, it is up to the boating industry/sponsors outside France.
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Dalin actualy losing all his delta surrounded by Ruyant & Bestaven in morning daylight...
HP velcro caught main peloton, calmed conditions might benefit the three leaders to increase some more miles and facilitate to asses Dalin's distress
HP velcro caught main peloton, calmed conditions might benefit the three leaders to increase some more miles and facilitate to asses Dalin's distress
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Allways interesting and a pleasure to hear Mike Golding, what a gentelman, can hear him (and Kenny Read) for hours
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Oh well. It's been a long time I guess. Easy to forget.
Yannick's music vid made my day anyhow. Reminded me of the times I'd put on headphones and try to get through "The Big Blue" or "The 5th Element" when all hell was breaking loose outside...but nothing I could really do about it but worry. Sometimes it almost worked.
