Vendee Globe 2020
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Varan
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Since you mentioned Armel, happy, happy, happy
Armel Tripon (L'Occitane en Provence) echoes the same message: "Happy? Yes, I still am. Several times a day, I tell myself that I have an incredible chance to do this race, that I am having strong, intense and fabulous moments. And I'm having a blast! "
That was back when Macs were sooo..different. A "desktop" was huge, with an equally huge monitor. Unwieldy, and you needed to operate with dos.Yes, funny to look at that and these old "techies" magazines
The Macs were "object oriented". Something Microsoft stole, and ran with.
A Mac, with Mac sea, at sea, was a tool.
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Below Tip&shaft podcast from yesterday with Serviane Escoffier (Kevin's sister and Louis Burton girlfriend and team manager) and Paul Meilhat :
https://www.tipandshaft.com/podcasts/posreport/episode12-paul-meilhat-servane-escoffier/
Discussing the strategy for the remaining route, but no time to listen, need to get some sleep ..
https://www.tipandshaft.com/podcasts/posreport/episode12-paul-meilhat-servane-escoffier/
Discussing the strategy for the remaining route, but no time to listen, need to get some sleep ..
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stief
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Saw this earlier (thought it was posted?) and noticed how smoothly L'Occitane (and Armel) was going. Usually there is jerking and slamming in most of the vids from other boats, but this seemed different. Wanted to check with you: just the conditions here, or is it the design?
bucc5062
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You know, 99% of the time I read your stuff and nod, yep, make's sense...not this time and rare that I comment, but this didn't make sense.
First, Pip, Boris, Isabelle, et al...they release 2-5 minutes vids of what they do, what they are feeling. You can choose to not watch, right? Yet it would seem you do so why then tell them, too much. It is your choice.
Overly dramatic? Seriously?
Was Clarissa's multiple mast climb's to fix a sail (and the emotional trauma she chose to share) overly dramatic or not even close to what it really takes. I've been hoisted to the top of a mast of a 27' boat in a dock and my heart was pounding...fuck 90+ ft alone so sorry sir, but I think it barely touched the surface of the grit it takes and yes, if drama sells access to the next ride, do you blame them for that is what we've turned this race (and others) into. Part reality TV for the sponsors, for the skippers, and for the fans.
You have two audiences here, one which would be the general masses, mostly sailors, but not blue water, not solo, not that adventurous, but drawn in by all three (that's me). I've learned how to watch, how to listen, and when to not comment (if I follow such like Anarchy), and this is the bulk of your draw. The other are folks like you. Very knowledgeable, experienced both in the type of sailing and the tools. Your fantasy list would be your wet dream for playing ghost skipper (and I don't mean that negatively) but would be data overload for the majority of fans/followers so RC folk, sponsors, they need to balance what is affordable, what will attract the masses, for frankly, they know you'll follow no matte what...Off shore sailing/racing is a drug you love (and I get it).
personally I found that this event had a good balance of information from the Official sites (VG, youtube, facebook, media) and forums like this that augment with community anchors that help in the play by play. Do we really need to add 24/7 video, real time tracking (even if you can stop racers from seeing each other), because unlike those skippers, we're not responsible for racing the boat(s) 24/7.
Like I said, I follow your posts, you tend to be ... balanced...but in this your "addiction" is getting the better of you. However, Maybe by 2024 Starlink will have and allow ocean connectivity with broadband capability and satellite communications costs will be so low that having a live stream mast cam/bow cam/whatever cam (but not Yes we Cam) could be possible, but I would be concerned that ads would become the norm and if that happened, I'd not watch.
Hoping Pip can hold on to her position, she made a tough call that is a hole she needs to dig out of, betting Boris will find a gear in the trades and hold a top three going into France, sending good thoughts that Isabelle makes it safe to SA, that Clarissa beats the odds and drags Armel(?) back into her sights, and JLC shows those foilers you don;t need fancy to sail at the top....you need skill, luck, and and good boat as well.
fair winds.
stief
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No worries. I just feel sorry for them when they are obligated to put on a show--which is not their primary area of expertise. That they do share, is much appreciated. I was just trying to imagine how they could be freed from the obligations, and still meet the publicity needs of the race.
Yes, it takes a lot to climb the mast (Pip chose not; good on her). Clarisse so chose, OK--but wonder what she would choose if there was less obligation to come up with a 'show'.
btw, I try to pay attention to those who don't communicate as well as some. Didac, eg. Ari, Maxime, and more that I didn't get to know. Giancarlo. Manuel. And more. I'm OK with that, even If the forum's interest is elsewhere.
Bottom line is I don't like pressure they face from us and the organization (fines are in the NOR if they fail to produce), but it is what it is. Just trying to think how it could be better for them.
Yes, it takes a lot to climb the mast (Pip chose not; good on her). Clarisse so chose, OK--but wonder what she would choose if there was less obligation to come up with a 'show'.
btw, I try to pay attention to those who don't communicate as well as some. Didac, eg. Ari, Maxime, and more that I didn't get to know. Giancarlo. Manuel. And more. I'm OK with that, even If the forum's interest is elsewhere.
Bottom line is I don't like pressure they face from us and the organization (fines are in the NOR if they fail to produce), but it is what it is. Just trying to think how it could be better for them.
Varan
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According to Manuard in a recent Seahorse article, one of the objectives of the scow design was to reduce slamming and decelerations from the bow digging in. Foils exit higher than the other designs and are fully retractable. L'Occitaine En Provence gave up some static waterline to accomplish the scow bow they wanted. I personally really like what they did and expect to see more from Manuard in the Imoca class.
stief
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Right, and thanks.Got most of that from posts you've made in the past, and picking up bits and hints elsewhere about the design. Was really asking if the few seconds of above clip might show (prove?) the advantages of the design, since it could just be a smooth bit of water or wind. Too little to tell for sure, but figured you'd know better than I would.
Certainly he's happy.
oysterhead
Member
I like the tiny yellow storm jib? inside the Code? reacher. No idea what to call these things
only looking at the bottom 1/6 of the sails.
Hitchhiker
Hoopy Frood
I didn't quit until 2009. Unfortunately for my wife, kids and those with whom I sailed. Immediately took up cycling and did my first metric century 7 months later. Since then it has been cycling suffer hell. But every now and then. A fag would be good! (Curious to see who gets that!)
Hitchhiker
Hoopy Frood
Nothing to add here, except.
Dark Cloud
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TANGO QUEBEC
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They used to be called a Trinquette (Staysail), this may have changed with more modern terms coming in. It's on a furler and pretty high off the deck, maybe his Storm Jib too.
pbenett
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Sadly L'Occitane never got the chance to sail in the same weather system of the leading boats; seems to me it would have been faster. Of course speed is not the only factor, as this edition of the VG is clearly showing. But I would have loved to see Armel racing neck & neck with the leaders
oioi
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Not sure, line looks okay to me. I think id rather be west and north to get into the bottom of the low and the new breeze first. It still looks lighter in the East.
Next 24 hours and managing the transition is going to be key.
TheDragon
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Burton is also presumably anticipating getting the stronger winds on the other side of the high pressure ridge first and slingshot past Dalin. He must be very confident in his ability to drive his boat hard, otherwise why not curve back east earlier and avoid giving Dalin the inside track?
