well not over yet my kid just test + today

[Chief Stipe]

It's obviously not going to be you...

I gave you one definition. What's yours?

 

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When a virus has invaded/infected a host.

 

[Chief Stipe]

When a virus has invaded/infected a host.

But how do you determine that?

 

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But how do you determine that?

Directly, microscope.

 

[Chief Stipe]

Directly, microscope.

Nope. Certainly not a standard microscope.

 

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Nope. Certainly not a standard microscope.

Then how?

 

[Chief Stipe]

Then how?

Depends on how you define an infection.

 

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Of course.

Must be great being the only person who knows.

 

[Chief Stipe]

Of course.

Must be great being the only person who knows.

Well your guess is as good as mine. The definition changed during this pandemic and different jurisdictions have different defintions. For example a high cycle PCR test for Covid returning a positive is considered an infection when the majority of such cases are asymptomatic I.e. the viral load isn't enough to make someone sick.

 

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Well your guess is as good as mine. The definition changed during this pandemic and different jurisdictions have different defintions. For example a high cycle PCR test for Covid returning a positive is considered an infection when the majority of such cases are asymptomatic I.e. the viral load isn't enough to make someone sick.

What does the PCR measure?

 

[Chief Stipe]

What does the PCR measure?

The presence of specific genetic material.

 

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The presence of specific genetic material.

Is that evidence of infection?

 

[Chief Stipe]

Is that evidence of infection?

Not necessarily. Again depends on your definition of infection. The PCR test can identify very very very small amounts of genetic material. One molecule amongst billions. Is that an infection?

 

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Not necessarily. Again depends on your definition of infection. The PCR test can identify very very very small amounts of genetic material. One molecule amongst billions. Is that an infection?

You are missing something.

Is genetic material scrubbed of the back of the throat an infection? No.


Is it suggestive of an infection if other symptoms are present? Yes.


What's the evidentiary difference?

 

[Chief Stipe]

Is it suggestive of an infection if other symptoms are present? Yes.

How do you measure that? Was the symptom Pneumonia? Was bacteria present?

Regardless by your definition of infection we can slash the total number of cases.

 

[Chief Stipe]

You are missing something.

Is genetic material scrubbed of the back of the throat an infection? No.


Is it suggestive of an infection if other symptoms are present? Yes.


What's the evidentiary difference?

Then by this definition most of the confirmed Covid cases aren't Covid cases.

 

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Because he's not sure you would understand.


But I will ask you a simple question, just for shuts and giggles.

Do vaccines prevent infection?

That depends on the chosen definition of vaccine. Obviously.

 

[Steam Flyer]

... Do vaccines prevent infection?

That depends on the chosen definition of vaccine. Obviously.

Actually, it does not.

But your answer does prove that you actually don't know shit.

 

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How do you measure that? Was the symptom Pneumonia? Was bacteria present?

Regardless by your definition of infection we can slash the total number of cases.

Does bacteria have to be present for pneumonia?

Was it tested for?

By all means, slash case numbers. What does that do for the CFR?

 

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That depends on the chosen definition of vaccine. Obviously.

Whats wrong with the dictionary definition?